• resetbypeer@lemmy.world
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    It’s like watching a horror movie. You know the killer is in the basement, yet people go and have a look while the audience knows what’s going to happen. A classic fuck around and find out.

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      35 minutes ago

      Well we now know there are truly people stupid enough to do so.

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    I sometimes fear that
    people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress
    worn by grotesques and monsters
    as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.

    Fascism arrives as your friend.
    It will restore your honour,
    make you feel proud,
    protect your house,
    give you a job,
    clean up the neighbourhood,
    remind you of how great you once were,
    clear out the venal and the corrupt,
    remove anything you feel is unlike you…

    It doesn’t walk in saying,
    “Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution.”

    –Michael Rosen.

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      They see the evil but think it will be to their advantage because they aren’t like “those people.”

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      One in five do not think Hitler was all bad. Two in five think he was better than a lady who laughs sometimes.

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      My thoughts exactly. Wait though, actually that is the fault of Democrats, somehow. I’ll get back to you on how

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    Hitler was nothing without the NSDAP and the fascist movement.

    There were 915,000 Germans in the Waffen-SS.


    In case you don’t remember, what we’re talking about here:

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    Ok, I get it, but we really should avoid looking at things/people like Adolfy as black or white - that just makes it a meme & loses actual historical/lecture value.

    With Hitler being a one-dimensional idea/meme/brand instead of a human (supported by humans with rational human causes) I’m afraid we are doomed to repeat the same cycle of mistakes.

    What I’m saying is that instead of education we have strong propaganda (after a specific date) that taught us this Hitler brand was just & only bad, like it was a spontaneous event. Instead of a full person & a nation (again full of actual people) with voting rights in irl situations.
    And propaganda isn’t free, it’s financially fueled, which means it wants something in return.

    Monsters are humans. We need to remember that, despite what we are preached.

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        Yeah, but that can’t possibly be true - which we ofc all know it can’t be, yet what you said is a very standard thing to say.

        (Even “killing Hitler” was at that point of no good consequence - but “he” (?) would have been a hero if he killed Hitler at least one year sooner … but also max about 22 years earlier … so he completely missed the window on that “one redeeming quality” as well … so that whole thing is just a nonsense saying.)

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      There is literally nothing I can think of that would make him good in any isolated field. For a long time people held the believe that he was pro environment and animal rights. But he also killed his own dog. People also say that he had a special aura around him. That he was very charming. But those people were likely like trump supporters today. My great grandmother actually got to see him before she fled Germany. She said that there was nothing particularly interesting about him except for the way he speaks maybe.

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        The question is still to vague. Obviously all of his politics were the worst. But the way it’s phrased, you’d kinda have to agree he wasn’t ALL bad if, for example, he made a pretty tasty pasta sauce. Like. Not that it’d be relevant. It’s the vagueness of the question that I’m critiquing. Maybe I’m just having an autism moment.

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      Even without or beyond judging the person, it’s the actions, results, and consequences of those actions too.

      Which is even more complex, but important for understanding the context.

      But it’s def really important to avoid black & white (wrongful) memefication, bcs suddenly the memetic value (the “idea” that the image of Hitler represents to masses on average) is vastly corrupted & serves other purposes.