• lntl@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Why is NATO helping these guys if they can’t get their shit together?

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      1 year ago

      Ask yourself what the alternative is and what a successful outcome for Russia will enable for Putin! Then ask yourself what that means for Europe. Finally ask yourself what upheaval of a European market will do to an American economy and America’s ability to make its influence felt across the world.

      Helping Ukraine is far cheaper.

      • mihor@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        You can finance this slaughter yourself, thank you very much.

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          1 year ago

          You can finance this slaughter right now, or you can finance your own slaughter later.

          Your choice.

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          1 year ago

          I don’t know which country you think I’m from, but all the countries I have a citizenship in are financing Ukraine plenty.

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      1 year ago

      It’s not ‘helping’, it’s using generations of Ukrainian men for draining Russian resources and manpower. US provoked this war and they want to prolong it as much as possible because it drains Russia and the EU.

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        1 year ago

        or it couldve been russia being such a shitty neighbor that ukrainians are tired of dealing with them. so ukraine has a revolution and turns westward.

        who could figure out why when the country was being looted by putins puppet. or russia invades its neighbors many times before 2014 and 2022. why wouldnt they want to be another vassal state to russia again?

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          1 year ago

          Would US cheerily let Mexico or Canada join e.g. Warsaw pact or present-day CSTO? I sure as hell believe they would intervene militarily. Look at what happened during the Cubon missile crisis. It puts the westoid rambling about ‘crazy Russia’ in a proper perspective, doesn’t it?

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              1 year ago

              That’s what Russia and Ukraine thought, until US started to interfere. It took them 20+ years to finally ignite the war.

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                  Kiev regime is openly nazi by promoting banderism and nazi ideology. They even have nazi insignia (wolfsangel) used for official military units. Not to mention nazi insignia running rampant in all sorts of units and even swastikas and balkenkreuzes on military vehicles and such.

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      Unnecessarily reductionist/antagonistic. If you had read the article, you would’ve known that the Ukrainians themselves agree with the point. And despite what the title says, the U.S. isn’t the only of Ukrainian’s western partners that thinks a change of strategy in order. This war might be fought primarily by the Ukrainians, but it’s also very clearly a collective responsibility of the western world order.

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        1 year ago

        The truth will never be reductionist.

        collective responsibility of the western world order.

        ie- capitalist imperialism.

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    1 year ago

    So ‘Bahmut holds’ wasn’t a viable strategy after all???