• kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I hope Luigi gets the jury nullification and walks free. But let’s not pretend that he’s falsly accused or was illegally detained/arrested.

    The police can completely detain someone based only on a passing resemblance to a grainy security cam image of a suspect. They can detain someone off even a vague description or sketch. They only need reasonable suspicion to detain someone, and that is a very low bar.

    In order to arrest, they need the higher standard of probable cause. They have to have some sort of evidence that leads them to believe that you have, are, or were about to commit a crime, or observe you in said commission of a crime. I don’t have all the details from the arrest, but it sounds like he was identified visually, yes, but also that he provided them the same fake id which was also used to check into the hostel in Manhattan where the security cam footage came from. That is enough to connect him to the crime and gain probable cause for the arrest. Actually, even independent of the shooting, providing false identification to the police during there investigation is itself an arrestable crime in Pennsylvania, too.

    And even if you think that the evidence that was on his person at the McDonald’s in Pittsburgh was wholly or partially planted, it is not the only evidence they have. For example, they have a water bottle and protein bar wrapper found near the shooting that the shooter left behind. Both have Luigi’s fingerprints on them.

    Luigi did it. That much seems apparent. Now whether that makes him “guilty”… that’s another question.

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      1 day ago

      To be clear, we have no idea what evidence they have, except for what has been sworn to under oath. And that evidence may or may not be reliable.

      Don’t assume any press release contained any facts.

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      Do you have a source for your claim about the fingerprints? I recall that there was a bottle and a wrapper near the scene of the shooting that may have been left by the shooter, but this is the first I’m hearing about fingerprints.

      I also don’t understand how tying someone to the hostel would tie them to the crime. We saw the hostel security images during the manhunt, but those images didn’t look like an obvious match to the security footage of the shooting. The eyebrows looked different and we really couldn’t see much of the shooters face for comparison. Maybe the police have evidence that establishes a string connection between flirty hostel checkin guy and the shooter, but i have not seen it.

      I’m not saying that it wasn’t him. But I have not seen enough evidence to say that Luigi did it…

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      There are a surprising number of people who are absolutely convinced that he’s not the killer through some sort of police coverup or something. It really doesn’t make sense to me. Fuck the police, but if he isn’t the real killer, the real killer could just repeat what they did and the whole thing would be exposed.