• Ferroto@lemmy.world
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    An attack on one is an attack on all. I always wondered what would happen if one NATO country attacked another.

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    7 hours ago

    Amazing. It is like they want people to hate America as much as possible before America starts confronting China.

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    14 hours ago

    The more I look into Greenland situation the more I am thinking there’s already a psychological campaign in play to get them to be part of the US. They’re legitimately trying to get away for the Danish government and there’s a strong US presence there already with military bases. I suspect the target is to get them to hand over the keys not only willingly but ask for it.

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    16 hours ago

    Trump added that the result was very good for the US and ‘the person who did the best is a very good person as far as we’re concerned’

    Me too form together words too

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    Given that he regards the Department of Justice as his personal litigators, it makes sense that he’d regard NATO as his enforcers.

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    18 hours ago

    The mighty US of A needs NATO to invade an island with 56,000 inhabitants?

    Is Wakanda located on that island or what?

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      22 hours ago

      Canada has three of top 5 longest sniper kills. Ukraine has the top spot. We just need to export a small chunk of metal at high velocity into a golf course.

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          No, no, the importer pays the tax. You might want to send them a little extra if you want to help them out with that.

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            the importer pays the tax

            Officially, but in reality the extra cost gets passed down to the consumers in all countries involved, following the usual recipe of the rich getting all the gains and the poor getting all the expenses.

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              Yeah, and we’d still all get fucked by this export as there are still a bunch of oligarchs left to bone us afterwards.

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          21 hours ago

          It’d definitely be a more worthy destination for my tax dollars than where they’re currently going. I support this initiative.

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      10 hours ago

      Trump being an idiot? Must be a day that starts with a T.

      There’s Tuesday and Thursday. Thriday, Thaturday and Thunday. And of course Tonday and Tednesday.

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    Dumbass doesn’t even understand that NATO is a DEFENSIVE pact and that Denmark is a member. Not wanting to give you their territory doesn’t count as an attack.

    Also if he really cared about security he would have strengthened his ties with his allies instead of pushing them away. The US is far less secure now that it was 3 months ago.

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      Not wanting to give you their territory doesn’t count as an attack.

      Having been married to a narcissist for 11 years, yes, that’s literally how they think. My ex would fly off the handle if I told her “no” to sex or whatever it was that she wanted. She’d throw out all kinds of excuses about how it was my fault somehow, and even during our divorce, when we were literally separated, she forced her way into my room (we still lived in the same house for a few weeks) just to “cuddle” and would throw a fit if I didn’t give in. Remember, we were getting divorced. I had to put my foot down hard on that line. And yes, she would get violent.

      Orange presidents with tiny dick syndrome calling a country’s refusal to give up territory an “attack” is not much different, fundamentally.

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      NATO isn’t really defensive.

      It’s two main Engagements - Kosovo and Afghanistan - were pretty solidly offensive imo.

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        Kosovo was UN not NATO. Only NATO engagement was Afghanistan and the Taliban had claimed responsibility for an act of war against a NATO member. Now the actual war was fought entirely in Afghanistan but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a defensive war. It just doesn’t feel like one.

        Don’t take this to mean I supported the war in Afghanistan or the many horrible things US troops did while there. (nor do I support the Taliban or their practises and tactics). But NATO is by rule and charter very much a defensive alliance. So much so that if Trump attacks Greenland he will have to face the rest of NATO. Which is something I don’t think he comprehends, it’s obvious that to him the US is the ruler of NATO.

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          Ok yeah my bad abt Kosovo.

          Re Afghanistan I would say 9/11 was not an act of war by Afghanistan, and more a terrorist attack by non-state actors. And the closest involved state actors were Saudi, Pakistani, and U.S moreso than Afghan anyway.

          I’m sceptical about the extent to which NATO is controlled by the U.S vs. other members but I’m not too knowledgeable, but it seems at minimum U.S has outsized influence on NATO anyway, as like all the Supreme Allied commanders of Europe have been from the US I think, even though the head position of NATO has more European staff.

          But yeah with article 5 and other factors it’s definitely possible Europe would defend Greenland, and I don’t think any of them would help invade it except maybe Hungary lol.