If you think China’s economy is a time bomb wait til you hear about what it means when the dollar is no longer the reserve currency around the world.
The country that leads the world in mass shootings shouldn’t be labeling other countries as “ticking time bombs.”
There’s something extremely funny about the president of the US looking at what’s going on China and saying out loud, “Their economy is a ticking time bomb.” This is almost an onion news story.
Listen, Fat! The US economy is doing better than any economy has every done in history, Jack. I call it Bidenomics. Get with the program.
I’m disappointed, there’s no representation of him having interaction with supernatural beings.
Omfg you people really spam every China related thread on our site huh? Forcing us to endure seeing your annoying asses at every corner, is there no way to block every hexbear user?
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lol this is the fediverse, this is not your space, this is everyone’s space.
NO, PRIVATIZE IT NOW, PRIVATIZE IT NOW
Well fuck you, you should get kicked out.
Why? Because he’s spitting facts? You really need to log off and have some fresh airs outside
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sorry to break it to you, but the person who runs your instance might be more aligned with the hexbears than with you.
why won’t you damn tankies let us lie about China??? STOP IT!! MODS!!!You’re the only lying manchilds here.
Fuck the CCP.
It’s actually the CPC, the Communist Party of China, the CCP is the Cuban Communist Party, hope this helps
Most people call it CCP, that’s even what’s taught in schools genius.
American schooling strikes again.
A damning condemnation of your education system, to be certain
Perfect response honestly
“Most people”
Yeah, if you don’t consider non-whites to be people
It’s literally the most common English name for it. Grow tf up
trust me i know everything about them ,( exept their actuall name … )
It VERBATIM translates to “CCP” in English. The CCP does not get to dictate how it’s translated to in English.
You literally have no idea what you’re talking about
Go to the official website of the party and see what they call themselves (in English)
So brave!
With hexbear federating it’s nice to see you have a well deserved vacation from
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Time for you to go make friends with the fascists and shitlibs who share your opinions I guess
Go in the real world kid. 99% of people of all politics will not like China.
You’re such a redditor
It’s also kinda hard to have 99% of people dislike China if 18% of the global population lives there and is very satisfied with their government, not even counting anyone in Russia, other parts of Asia and the Pacific, Central and South America, or Africa.
You’re really showing whose opinions you actually care about. A bunch of propagandized to the brim, comfortable Americans, Canadians, and Europeans
That’s ridiculous since the Chinese like China and we’re 18% of all humans.
Here’s an article about Americans getting salty that views on China in South America are largely positive as opposed to sub 50% approval rating in English speaking countries.
Here’s Voice of America saying the same thing about Africa and how Africans see China.
Your opinions on China is not only in the minority, it’s a waning minority. Those are western sources I used in case you wanted to cry propaganda.
CatholicSocialist’s criteria for who counts as people:
Go read about BRI infrastructure projects in Africa and Asia. The global south is generally very positive about Chinese politics because Chinese give them hospitals and roads and ports.
I wasn’t talking about people in countries that have been bribed.
Maybe the US should try bribing people instead of bombing them
Maybe the US should start “bribing” with infrastructure projects then, I thought they were all about their soft power or whatever
lmao this is so dumb. Every campaign promise in every democracy is a bribe then?
No… because they never fulfill their promises.
You live in the US, how are you not being bribed to think the way you do?
In fairness the statement is consistent. The US government does it’s damndest to do nothing what so ever for the citizens of the us.
Most POC do not like China either, it’s only a few countries.
In the real world 99% of people in US think about where their next meal is going to come from instead of perseverating about China the way you’re doing kid.
what do you mean, “you people”?
and that annoyance you feel is nothing compared to the capitalist propaganda you’ve been swimming in your whole life.
Go back to Reddit with the other bazinga dipshits
I found a website that doesn’t have those loser Hexbears. Here let me show you.
Disagreeing with you isn’t spam.
Spamming any thread we post about China is.
What makes it spam? We’re invited to lemmy.ml, it shows up on our homepage the same as it does yours (probably even higher because instances more likely to downvote or ignore political posts don’t link with us atm).
If you meant flooding, it’s not that either. We’re a big instance (1k users weekly) with a general interest in politics and a historical anti-lurking culture, so we’ll be disproportionately active in political threads compared to a general instance like lemmy.ml, just like programming.dev is in tech threads. Are we meant to just not share an opinion because too many other people in the same instance already posted their (different) opinion?
Ngl the anti lurking culture of hexbear has been so good for us being able to fucking bully libs coming in despite there maybe being a “silent majority” of ex-reddit libs who probably outnumber us but never post
Back on Reddit we were like the third most active sub in sheer posting velocity after I think the NBA sub with 2.3 million members. They couldn’t keep us off the front page without fucking with the algo. It’s one of the main reasons they quarantined us.
You can just make your own instance where only people with brains as smooth as bowling balls are allowed and defederate with the rest of us. I guarantee you that everyone will be much happier.
your own instance where only people with brains as smooth as bowling balls are allowed
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You’ve been here 3 days.
“you people”
“You people” as in an overwhelmingly White-American group of people that spends their free time defending a brutal regime.
Hey there it is!! “Brutal regime” describes things like the ongoing cultural genocide of indigenous peoples, which itself is a continuation of the brutal mass murder and subjugation of those peoples. A BR (brutal regime) does things like enforce debt against Haiti for having the audacity to free itself from slavery and using the debt to ensure the white financiers who bought those slaves don’t lose any money while simultaneously refusing to engage in any form of reparations. A BR separates children from their parents for an an unbroken multi-century program of violent oppression against non-whites. If you rank every country in the world by the most bombs dropped on it, there’s only one BR that is responsible for the top 3 most bombed countries in the history of the world.
But do go on about how those ebil Chinese are so compliant in approving their government for 15 years at a rate of 95% (just ask Harvard) despite that government being a “brutal regime”. Must be something in their culture, right?
At least on mobile apps you can block an entire instance, hopefully that’s a feature we’ll see on Lemmy itself one day.
By my estimates, China has only 70 more years until complete and utter collapse!
Yeah yeah, I’ve heard that before. There’s a whole cottage industry of “experts” that have predicted the imminent collapse of China going back decades. Call me when it actually happens.
China’s economy is stacked like a house of cards and could come crumbling down due to some unforeseen global financial shock, but then again that sounds like most modern economies. I think people just pick on China because, instead of having a group of billionaires stack up the cards, the government does it themselves.
Even if that shock happens, China will still be in a better situation. Like, they actually manufacture stuff there, and the government builds infrastructure aggressively. That’s two massive benefits to economic security and health.
But what if all that high speed rail disappears, huh? Didn’t think about that, stupid tankie.
It’s a legitimate risk. Rail theft by the mole-people is up 12% in the last quarter.
Well, actually it’s because China’s roaring economic success is both deeply embarassing and existentially dangerous to international fascism and it is absolutely vital that they both discredit China and prevent their thoroughly indoctrinated population from learning anything about China at all costs.
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Everyone is, what with climate change. Southern hemisphere? Only metaphorically for now. Northern hemisphere: in most places both metaphorically and literally.
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Don’t worry about having to work 30 hours a day at the sisyphean torture factory to be able to afford your ten square foot apartment Jack, look at what’s going on in China! A sexpat YouTuber who got kicked out of the country says their economy will collapse any minute now! Don’t trust any of the actual data on China’s economy, you can’t fall for those [REDACTED] and their tricks, Jack! They’re weak even though we say they’re strong! THEY’RE WEAK EVEN THOUGH WE SAY THEY’RE STRONG!…due to the USA’s economic troubles?
There’s a reason China started implementing dual circulation a few years back.
Man leading country with the largest homeless population in the world says country which eliminated extreme poverty within its borders is about to collapse, of course this is true and should be taken seriously
Uhhhh China has almost 5x the homelessness as America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_homeless_population
I love not accounting for population size! However, let’s see how the countries can be compared when we do:
Uhhhh China has 4x the population of the US
Uhhhh the US has more people in prison than China despite having 4x less people in the country
The old federation is dying, the new one struggles to be born. Now is the time of unlimited China struggle sessions.
China has massive demographic problems stemming from decades of the one child policy.
So the “new federation” is just going to be made up of mostly elderly Chinese (because of the one child policy) and elderly Russians because the young people died fighting in Putin’s stupid war or left before they could be drafted.
Yes comrade, the future will be run by elderly fascist federation LOL.
Fascism is a self-destructive thing, we’re seeing it happening in Russia, and we’re starting to see the signs of China’s fascist regime (ironically called a Communist Party) self-destructing.
For the second time I beg of you please pin down what a fascism is
you just said two countries with completely different economic and political systems are both doing a fascism
please what is it
What the fuck are you on about? I’m talking about the lemmyverse/federation.
idk if youve read any of the papers on AI research coming out of china like i have (i translated them from mandarin to english), but they have little concern for the economics of this, the CPC’s goals are to increase automation so less people output more, and have been doing so in the construction sector at a breakneck pace. china recently built the world’s largest hoover-like arch dam in four years (which would usually take 12-16 years in other countries with modern standards), and plans to reduce it even more down to two years, all while cutting the number of people working on the project. theyre basically ‘3d printing’ dams by having robotic cement trucks act as extruders and have automated sensors that determine the density of concrete to insure safety. workplace accidents are very down as well.
also idk if you know this, but china is increasing reliability and durability of appliances and making it easier to hotswap factories from different types of production easier in order to meet public demands for goods. theyre really a powerhouse scientifically, and are focusing on far more important issues than the west are
I don’t know about China, but Biden is really throwing stones from glass houses here as the leader of a country which is teetering on the edge of civil war, had a full blown insurrection in the past few years, and not only has it failed to prosecute the leader and instigator, it has allowed him to run for election again and there is a possibility of him being elected.
And this is not mentioning that so many in the highest offices “on both sides” are so hilariously corrupt in a country with its national ethos being “the land of the free”.
I’m not happy about this by the way, I don’t think a world order built by China would be better than the shitty one we got from the US.
It 100% would be better. There is nothing in modern Chinese history that remotely approaches the level of imperial devastation the US has wrought on the world. This is not up for debate by any serious person. How many countries has China invaded recently? How many coups have they instigated? Is their “foreign aid” designed to help countries develop, or to extract as much wealth as possible while keeping them impoverished, underdeveloped, and dependent on the west for their most basic needs? Has the standard of living in China been going up or down in recent decades? Now ask yourself the same questions about the US.
I don’t think a world order built by China would be better than the shitty one we got from the US
I do to be honest.
I’d rather be under the rule of a hegemony that is composed of many different cultures and in the process of healing than one who is still actively genociding their minorities.
EDIT: Welp, I guess there is no war in Ba Sing Se. Ya’ll are expert brigaders, well done.
If we pretend that what the USA does to its own people is acceptable, you still have to consider what it does to the rest of the world. I’m sorry, but in light of all the evidence, I see the US hegemony as evil. I also doubt the western media’s portrayal of the Uyghur “genocide” and I don’t agree that China is in the process of a Holocaust against its own people.
I’m lucky enough to have a job that puts me in contact with a lot of countries all over the global south of the world, and the general opinion from all of them is that China is a lot better prospect than old Western imperialism.
The Chinese propaganda made to counter the satellite images, testimony from victims, and video evidence consists of some YouTubers visiting the same handful of uncomfortably smiling Uyghur families under the careful eye of Chinese censors and fluff pieces that amount to “nuh-uh”.
China is trying to erase the culture of people within their borders, again, and there is a long tradition of this forced assimilation in China. They are not pluralistic, and don’t want to be, and their attitude towards non-chinese within their borders lead me to have very low expectations on how they will treat minorities outside.
Imagine being from Canada and bleating about China trying to erase the culture of people. Projecting much?
Go live there for a few years and tell us more on your way back.
A great way to tell us you’re a chauvinist who doesn’t know anybody who lives in China and never been there.
It could be that. Or it could be the exact opposite (which it is, would you want to see my hukou?), and the fact that you can’t tell the difference while thinking that you could and that it matters makes you an angry little person.
The fact that all you ever do here is shit on China shows what your agenda is buddy. The only angry little person here is the one who can’t say a single nice thing about a country that’s lifting millions of people out of poverty each and every year.
“agenda”, I like how you make it sound like my posts are some kind of greater, organized operation or conspiracy. Projection maybe? Because between the two of us, you are the only one whose post history is consistently made of political activism disguised as news. Not that it automatically makes you a bad person, but you can’t reasonably expect people to take you and your opinion seriously when you have the pretence to simultaneously speak from position of authority on geopolitical topics as broad as China, Russia, West Africa, North America, Central America, Eastern Europe, all at the same time. You should realize that you can’t possibly have such a broad life exposure, or your time would be better invested outside of Lemmy, don’t you think? The only reasonable alternative, and sad reality, is that you are just repeating talking points conveniently arranged for you and repeated inside your echo chamber.
As of me, I am equally entitled to my own opinions, equally partaking to information bubbles, with the difference that my life is actually forever bound to China and that I can legitimately pretend that I have something to contribute to that discussion. Unlike you, I am not brigading from a far-away continent. I don’t “shit on China”. Had you any idea of my situation, you wouldn’t even think of saying something like that. You do may find that some of what I have to say on certain topics is contrary to your ideals, but so is China: it isn’t the monolithic strong fortress people make it to be in the media (in either side of the discourse).
I’m actually pretty open about my political activism. I’m not disguising anything. Having grown up in USSR, and moved around the world a lot, I do think I have a much broader exposure than majority of people. The fact that you presume to know so much about me exposes the sad reality about you projecting what you know of yourself to be true onto others I’m afraid. I also love how you accuse me of doing what you yourself regularly do here, unless you’ll have us believe that you have some deep expertise on the political situation in Africa. Seems to me that you’re trying to speak from position of authority in comments such as this one, while clearly demonstrating utter lack of knowledge on the subject. I don’t know why you felt the need to be “brigading” that far away continent.
Meanwhile, nowhere have I claimed that China is some monolithic strong fortress or that there aren’t legitimate problems in China. My only claims has been that despite the problems China has, it shows a better alternative to what the west is doing. While you seem to be fixating on problems such as unlimited freedom of expression, that affects a tiny majority of the people, I’m looking at the problem of meeting the material needs of the people. China has done a far better job in ensuring that people have things like food, housing, education, and healthcare than the supposedly enlightened western liberal societies.
To sum up, you pretend to have some sort of high ground and sling feces at me, but the only difference is that you support western empire and all its horrors whether you realize it or not.
What troubles?
Can you describe the troubles?
Are the troubles in the room with us?
They’re straight up gaslighting LMAO. This is an actual, recent headline from the wsj:
President of the Ticking Time Bomb Republic says that the country that hasn’t had a recession in 45 years is “in trouble” and that their 5.2% GDP increase projected by the IMF is “weak growth”.
projection much
