Hamas’ brutal attacks in Israel on October 7 killed at least 1,400 people and the group took more than 200 hostages, according to Israeli authorities. In the wake of the assault, Israel launched an aerial bombardment of Gaza that Palestinian health officials say has killed more than 5,000 people. Israel also announced a “complete siege” on the enclave, withholding vital supplies of water, food and fuel.

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    9 months ago

    The news just said that Israel is withholding fuel as Hamas might use it.

    Next will be we’re withholding food as Hamas might eat some.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. What Hamas did was terrible, but Israel has done is no better.

    The fact that for one side in a war collateral damage is acceptable is fucking disgusting and it makes me ashamed to be a human.

    I condemned my own country (UK) when we helped invade Afghanistan and Iraq and murdered civilians.

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      9 months ago

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. What Hamas did was terrible, but Israel has done is no better.

      of course not. this conflict will only end if both (!!) sides stop this shit. Both sides have to accept the other one as humans, as independent states, their different religions, all that stuff. Without that there will be no peace, only more death on both sides.

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        From wikipedia on Hamas charter:

        “There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

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          9 months ago

          Now do the quotes from Israeli government officials including Netanyahu himself advocating for a one country (final) solution to “the Palestinian problem”, nazi rhetoric intended and appropriate in this context.

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        9 months ago

        You’re making it sound as if the Israeli government and Hamas have equal power, which is ridiculously wrong. Though officially in charge, Hamas has almost no authority to govern Palestine or otherwise do anything except commit atrocities against civilians.

        Israel has the power to stop the oppression and genocide of Palestinians almost immediately and everything would become much more peaceful in a matter of months, maybe even weeks.

        They won’t do that though, since they’re governed by genocidal fascists emulating apartheid South Africa, some of whom won’t even accept the existence of a Palestinian people.

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          some of whom won’t even accept the existence of a Palestinian people.

          like the Hamas? From their agenda:

          “There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

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            9 months ago

            Read the articles I posted that explain it. Everyone sane agrees that the terrorism of Hamas is atrocious, but that doesn’t absolve the Israeli oppressors from responsibility for their own actions, especially because they’re by far the ones with the most power to enact change.

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    *Forgot the fact that Hamas has literal tons of fuel being used for their war crimes (yes shooting rockets against civilian cities without a clear threatening target is a war crime)

    Israel bringing in fuel will be used for rockets and war. Why should they. The only reasonable way for fuel to be actually used for hospitals is if the UN or some other natural party escorts that fuel, preventing Hamas terrorists from stealing it.

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        A) is it the responsibility of a foreign neighbor or the running government to handle an emergency situation? By the way, the running government is Hamas.

        B) how exactly would Israel give those hospitals fuel? They’ll drive down gaza boulevard with a fuel truck and just give it to the hospital? Without kidnapped drivers and stolen fuel by Hamas? Even if they did manage a way for the fuel to reach the hospital - Hamas is governing Gaza, and will steal (at least some) of that fuel to fund their war against Israel. Hence Israel has 0 incentive or responsibility to give fuel when it’ll come around to bite them in the ass when it’ll be used to power rockets.