Thousands took to the streets across Israel Saturday night to call for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ouster and new elections, in demonstrations spanning from Tel Aviv and Jerusalem to Haifa and Caesarea in the north and Be’er Sheva in the south.
At a demonstration in front of the President’s Residence in Jerusalem, Yosef Angel, bereaved father and grandfather of 17-year-old Ofir Angel, who was freed from Hamas captivity in Gaza, said “You stand at the head, and are responsible for the October 7 holocaust. You are trying to escape responsibility and look for someone else to blame, shame on you.”
One state solution. No country gets to dress up in a liberal democracy wig while sporting ethno state raybands. Apartheid states don’t get to exist in a functioning democracy.
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One state solution would be a catastrophe.
Correct.
The only way a one state solution happens is if the other state ceases to exist.
Which seems to be what the hardliners on both sides of this conflict are advocating for.
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If it was a democracy, it would be a catastrophe for whom?
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Netanyahu is acting like Hitler in this case. Remind me how peace with the Nazi’s was achieved again?
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What? Israel is currently committing genocide, even in areas they successfully occupied. Nazis are the most fitting comparison I’ve seen.
Apartheid states don’t get to exist in a functioning democracy.
They shouldn’t get to exist. And yet, here we are.
I appreciate the sentiment, but calling October 7th a “holocaust” causes more problems than it solves. The Israeli propaganda machine has been active as soon as the attack started to make Hamas look worse than they already are (which is still pretty bad to be fair, but not “Holocaust” bad).
Thanks to Israel using people who weren’t qualified for the job the numbers will never come to light, but let’s not forget that a significant number of IDF civilians were killed by the IDF, not Hamas.
What’s an IDF civilian?
Oh shit my bad. I meant Israeli civilians.
Hamas committed genocide.
The Palestinian movement has failed to adequately separate itself from Hamas. No real denouncements of Hamas. You have people cosplaying as Hamas genocidal psychopaths at Pro-Palestine rallies.
Now the tactic seems to be to literally “both sides” genocide. Claim that Israel is committing genocide to provide cover for the genocide Hamas committed.
The old fascist tactic of accusing the other side of the things you’re guilty of.
What’s happening now is a war. A war that was started by the genocide Hamas committed. Given how Hamas has embedded itself into the civilian population, given that Hamas doesn’t wear uniforms which would allow the IDF to distinguish combatants from civilians, given Hamas has made zero effort to protect the civilian population, building bunkers only for themselves… yeah it’s a war with a lot of civilian casualties. A war Hamas started. A war Hamas created the conditions in which there would be high civilians casualties.
Anyone that’s cracked open a history book knows what this is. People with foreign policy experience knows what’s up.
But people reading the boosted Hamas propaganda have read the same lies over and over again enough times that they believe it.
Then scream on the internet about “why is Joe Biden allowing this to happen?”
It’s because he’s not in the information silo you’re in. Hamas committed genocide. No matter how much people want to deny it, no matter all the “both sides” fascist narratives are spread on the internet, the truth is that Hamas committed genocide. Hamas started the war. Hamas set up the conditions for the war. As Hamas is being contained, the civilian casualties are dropping. Civilian casualties happen in Israel when Hamas is present. Civilian casualties also happen in Gaza when Hamas is present. Israel is not committing genocide because if that were the case, civilian casualties would increase where Hamas isn’t present to protect them. But the opposite is happening. Civilian casualties are decreasing as Israel takes control of Gaza from Hamas.
You’ve been lied to. It’s easier to convince someone of a lie than it is to convince them they’ve been lied to. It’s not just the MAGAs that need deprogramming. There’s a lot of people that fell for Hamas propaganda.
Hamas committed genocide.
nice thesis you got there.
They went into villages and massacred every man, woman and child they could find simply because they didn’t approve of people of a certain ethnicity living where they did.
they didn’t discriminate on ethnicity.
One of these is responsible for the Oct 7th Protest
And I’m pretty sure its not the Israelis, because suggesting that would make me an anti-Semite.
Yes, because by doing so you fail to see the big picture. No, it’s not “they started it” like a lot of Israeli’s like to say, but it’s the fact that Israel itself is being taken over by fascists, fundumentalists, billionaires and Netanyahu family. The Israeli people were fighting them the last year trying to prevent the country from becoming a dictatorship.
Oh, and finish with a childish remark… Your comment just copy past a random article, throws a “what about” unrelated to the topic and paint all the Israelis in the same color.
The Israeli people were fighting them the last year trying to prevent the country from becoming a dictatorship.
The bulk of the Israeli public was perfectly happy with the treatment of their Palestinian neighbors up until this point. Settlers on the border shooting into Palestinian lands, attacking Palestinian farmers, bulldozing homes, and setting fire to groves is nothing new. It goes straight back to the Nakba of '48.
What has the Ashkenazi branch of the population in a lather is the threat of Sephardics and Mizrahis increasingly dominating the Parliament and the various state agencies. The country has always been a military dictatorship from the perspective of the Arabs. Only recently have the more Western and secularized Jewish settlers found themselves exposed to the iron fist of Israeli rule.
That’s a completly different argument than the one you started with. Noted. Just to not let your new argument hang there: In almost all polls made before the 7th vast majority of Israelis agreed to the separation to two states solution, and definatly disagreed to the terror acts made by the extreme settlers. It’s unfortunate that because tons of propaganda made by the same people now run our government and institutions funded by American billionairs, they were not aware of all of it.
That’s a completly different argument than the one you started with.
It is not.
In almost all polls made before the 7th vast majority of Israelis agreed to the separation to two states solution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mowing_the_grass
This is a policy supported by multiple prior Israeli governments that amounted to the extrajudicial assassination of any Palestinian or Lebanese resident suspected of being a militant. This is the “two state solution” that Israelis supported. One in which the Israelis can launch rockets and fire bullets out of Israel uncontested and Palestinians are expected to accept that anyone an Israel kills must have deserved it.
