• MisterRoboto@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    What doesn’t get mentioned much in articles about this: that cop is a military veteran with PTSD… Like, the absolute last person who should be a cop.

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    9 months ago

    So I watch the video and Jesus fucking Christ. That man should not be allowed to own a gun.

    I wonder if he’s a veteran or something because his reaction seemed like abject terror and panic. Regardless , no one should have let that man have a gun if he’s so terrified and unstable.

  • bostonbananarama@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Do you know how loud a gunshot is…? And he thought the sound of an acorn hitting the car was a shot fired by the suspect inside the car he’s standing next to? Either he’s lying or he’s remarkably stupid, either way he should not have a gun.

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      9 months ago

      Not you, nor i, nor the cop, nor anyone experience true reality.

      We all experience what our brains cobble together from some sensory inputs, saying “it wasn’t as loud as a gunshot” is, at best, a meaningless statement, and at worst, utterly idiotic.

      you want to blame something? blame the Police force that hired him, blame the cop propaganda that heightened the PTSD, blame the predominant hyper individualist culture in America, blame the lack of healthcare, blame the commonly held notion that mental health is fake and should just walk it off, blame the fact that the nation fails those who served it at every single turn, blame the economic system that requires you to work to live even at the level of an African substance farmer (fun fact, some regions in Florida are so poor that they live in conditions that make imminent post soviet collapse Balkans seem luxurious), etc…

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        9 months ago

        We all experience what our brains cobble together from some sensory inputs, saying “it wasn’t as loud as a gunshot” is, at best, a meaningless statement, and at worst, utterly idiotic.

        What the hell are you talking about about? An acorn hitting a car might be 50-80 decibels; a Glock 17 9mm pistol is 162 decibels, that’s louder than a jet taking off. That is ridiculously loud, perception doesn’t factor in at that point. If you can’t tell the difference between an acorn and a gunshot then you are not properly tethered to reality.

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          9 months ago

          damn, I didn’t realize our ears are infallible decibel meters, nor that it is output into a chart instead of a big sentient tapioca interpreting electric signals (PS: you are inherently not tethered to reality, you are sentient tapioca pudding trying to make sense of a whole big jumble of electric signals)

    • Death_Equity@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      The suspect in the car was known to have at least one pistol with a suppressor. That being said, the guy was given a cursory pat-down and could not have had a suppressed firearm on him unless it was in him.

      A properly setup suppressed pistol fired from within a vehicle would be fairly quiet, but would sound nothing like an acorn bouncing off a car and you would know if you were hit.

      He has no business being a cop if he freaks out when an acorn bounces off a car and taps his vest. Luckily the suspect was not physically harmed and the cop resigned. Hopefully the suspect gets a nice payout from the city.

      • bostonbananarama@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        A properly setup suppressed pistol fired from within a vehicle would be fairly quiet

        A Glock 17 9mm pistol is 162 db, with a suppressor it is 126 db. That’s roughly as loud as a jackhammer. Not exactly what I’d call quiet.

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    9 months ago

    Its time to stop thinking of cops as big boys with guns and think of them more like dogs with guns that fire when they bark.

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    9 months ago

    Much as we like to joke about it, to me this hints at the bad state of the mental and emotional care system.

    For cops in particular in this case, but of course the population at large, too. A person who is armed - and in the US that can be everybody 2 years or older basically - should not be left without help to get into a situation where they can be this delusional and on edge while carrying a gun. People need help. Medical help.

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      9 months ago

      Mental health treatment, for both cops and soldiers, should be mandatory. If we are going to give them the power of life and death over another human being, they should have as much support as possible.

      Personally, I think all police should be required to attend a mental health session at least once a month (even more, if they choose to). What happens in that session is entirely down to them. Hell, set up some games consoles, a TV and a small library. If they want to turn up and just read a book for an hour, that’s fine! However, they should be required to be in the room, with a trained professional.

      This would go a long way towards helping them. They can vent off, get some constructive tips, chill out, or fully engage. All would help. It also helps nip things like PTSD in the bud. Shooting a teen, because they drew a gun on you, and watching them die, is still watching a teen die by your hand.

      In a perfect world, it would be a good exit path for retiring officers. Train them up, and they also know what it’s like to be in their shoes.

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        9 months ago

        Mental health treatment, for both cops and soldiers, should be mandatory.

        Mental health treatment should be free.

        FTFY

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    9 months ago

    What did he actually shoot at though? He had no verified target. Did he just empty his clip wildly into thin air? What was he pointing his gun at?

    Edit: holy shit, he shot at his own cop car with a suspect in the back

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      9 months ago

      He didn’t shoot at the cop car, this article is VERY back the blue, bootlicking fuckery.

      Him and his partner unloaded on the man they just arrested in the back of the car because they thought he shot at them. Luckily he wasn’t killed.

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        9 months ago

        “He then turned and emptied every bullet from his gun, each aimed squarely at his squad car.”

        Did you read the article?

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          9 months ago

          ‘At his car’ is not entirely accurate. Cars can’t fire guns, the cops target was the human inside the car whom he thought shot him.

          It’s kinda like saying ‘several people died’ instead of saying ‘the bomb killed 15 children’. Both are technically accurate but provide different context.