Global fertility rates to plunge in decades ahead, new report says | CNN
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A new study projects that global fertility rates, which have been declining in all countries since 1950, will continue to plummet through the end of the century, resulting in a profound demographic shift.
  • AmbiguousProps@lemmy.todayEnglish
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    8 months ago

    Why would I want to bring another human being into this world? The planet is melting, greed is at insane levels, the future looks bleak. I don’t want my children to suffer and get thrown through the machine.

    • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      I’m glad my parents didn’t think like that. I vastly prefer non-optimal life to not existing at all.

      I’m also not going to have kids but I do it because of me, not because of them. I don’t understand people who think they are so wise that they can make this judgement for others.

      • Rodeo@lemmy.ca
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        8 months ago

        I vastly prefer non-optimal life to not existing at all.

        How could you possibly know that? Do you remember not existing?

        • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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          8 months ago

          If I didn’t want to exists I would commit a suicide. The fact that I don’t want to do that indicates to me that it’s better for me to exist than not.

          • force@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            There is a massive difference between never existing and taking existence away from someone that already has it

            • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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              8 months ago

              From subjective experience theres no difference. The moment you cease to exists you could just as well have never existed.

              Also not existing is not something you do. Choosing to prevent something for existing that otherwise would have is. We’re however getting quite far from my original argument here which is that not making children because you think the world is an awful place and life is not worth living is, in my opinion, a bad reason.

              • Psychodelic@lemmy.world
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                8 months ago

                Have you considered practicing how to convey your thoughts and opinions in a less arrogant and off-putting way?

    • iopq@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Came to find this comment. Always gets upvoted, never relevant to the actual issue

        • Turun@feddit.de
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          8 months ago

          It doesn’t add anything meaningful to the discussion. Basically everyone is aware of those arguments. The top level comment states some facts (e.g. climate change), but does not offer deeper insight or start a discussion. Nothing was gained from reading that comment, so it may as well not have been written in the first place.

          In order to turn it into a meaningful contribution the author of said comment should have added something more.
          For example by going into how they feel those facts are insurmountable and therefore how they see the demographic changes as inevitable and what sort of effects this will have on their personal life/on their community/on their country. This can then lead to a discussion about the severity of the effects and people can contribute what they think possible solutions are.
          Or for another example, one could use these effects on demographic change as a basis to start a discussion about one of the contributing factors. i.e. take the difficulties that arise from lower birthrates as an argument for better family oriented policies/for more climate action/against bodily autonomy (that one would certainly start a fierce discussion, lol)

          • Llewellyn@lemm.ee
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            8 months ago

            Who would pre-check commentaries for uniqueness? And on what basis?

            A thought might be banal for one and new for another.