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You know what happens when an entire nation is exposed to luxurious lifestyles of an extremely wealthy minority?
Revolution. Revolution happens.
Chinese politicians know this fact too well, that’s why they’re trying to make rich people hide their wealth.
I mean actually fixing the problem is out of the question, that would be communism.This is one of those laws where I fundamentally disagree with the state having the power to make laws like this because the power will be misused, but in this instance, I actually think the law seems fine? Its not just exposing actual luxurious lifestyles like you imply, its also people going into debt to fake a higher level of lifestyle than they actually live, and this self perpetuates through social media like a virus.
If the government gave even a single shit about the poor, they would focus on banning wealth hoarding not wealth flaunting.
But they don’t, so they aren’t.
What they are doing is openly showing who they are and what they do care about (capitalists, on both counts), you not wanting to believe it is a different problem.Hoarding would be sufficient.
Limiting peoples ability to express rarely results in desired outcome.
you and me are probably exposed to extreme luxury from a minority, but revolution aint happening anywhere rn
Yup. And for me the reason is I don’t see rich people as a threat to me.
have you been living under a rock?
Idk. That exposure happens here, and it mostly makes people go into debt trying to emulate the appearance of wealth.
You know what happens when an entire nation is exposed to luxurious lifestyles of an extremely wealthy minority?
They also want the same thing.
Communism wouldn’t fix much, and it would only be a temporary fix. It doesn’t work well at a larger scale which is why every country that has tried it has either fallen apart or turned into a dictatorship.
We’re better off finding the proper balance between capitalism and socialism until someone comes up with a better system that actually works.
I mean most houses crumble when you hit em with a tornado but were still building houses.
What i mean to say is I think we can agree there’s enough noise in most previous communism attempts, making them pretty shitty data to base your hypothesis off off
Communism is a house that crumbles on its own, fast, while producing tornadoes that take down other houses in the process.
Fun analogy but uh that’s not all that scientific my guy.
Give me 5 min and I’ll draw communism as Chad then you’ll be fucked
Which Communist government existed in a world where othet countries didn’t actively sabotage it?
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Gotta suppress those aspirations before they get out of hand. Wealth is just the theme in this case, but could be anything else.
China really doesn’t want to have the discussion that its economy is more unequal than the EU’s.
its a bad day to be a chinese gangsta rapper.
bad news, those who do rap in China are all technical secondary schools.
I know that not all countries care about academic qualifications as much as China. Academic qualifications mean almost everything in Chinese, so this makes those who rap more funny because they have no academic both time . can you understand what i mean ？
honestly no idea but its all good given the jest nature.
Nah. Having so much wealth that it doesn’t matter if the CCP makes flaunting illegal is an insane flex. They’ll start doing it even more.
inb4 tankies screaming that this is a good thing, actually.
Transparency and knowledge are capitalist myths. The only way forward is mass manipulation and the destruction of freedom.
Destruction of freedom? What freedom? They already are slaves of the big corporate elite machine lizards!
/s
Hahaha they’re so predictable
Funny how China gets criticised both for doing “communist” things and then for doing “not really communist” things. Seems like they get criticised regardless of what they do.
China has never experienced a Renaissance, so it will never be civilized
That’s a weird combination of things to believe. It’s weird all together and every part of it is weird individually.
I can explain to you ten thousand words to prove that China’s humanistic heritage has never changed since the Qin Dynasty.
This is probably a consensus on the Chinese Internet.
I was just joking when I said Renaissance, although it is not unreasonable.
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Communism is when China does anything… Especially capitalism!
The type of capitalism found in China is known as state capitalism and it’s an unholy blend of central planning and free markets, with the government owning significant stakes in all key industries, exerting a massive control over both the economy and society as a whole using all of the methods used by previous Communist autocracies, only this time with far more technology.
The only way in which communism is inherently authoritarian is in that wealth must be forcibly taken from capitalists and landowners in order to help the masses.
Equating communism with authoritarianism, but not doing the same with capitalism, a system in which the owning class oppresses (to the point of homelessness and starvation) the working class, is simply ignorant.
There is oppression under this system as well, there are private prisons that lead directly to incarceration, there is gross inequality, there is global injustice (forced extraction of wealth and natural resources from foreign lands), there is climate injustice in which a tiny minority of the population is directly causing harm, suffering, and an increasing amount of climate refugees (to which they deny entry after making their homes unlivable).
but yes an economic system that puts the needs of the many above the lavish lifestyles of the few and which prefers cooperation to competition is inherently authoritarian and this one isn’t. How many terrible capitalist countries can you name?
Capitalism only works in theory.
The only way in which communism is inherently authoritarian is in that wealth must be forcibly taken from capitalists and landowners in order to help the masses.
When wealth was taken from capitalists and landowners in the Soviet Union, it results in millions of poor people starving to death. (the rich people were worked to death; the poor people starved to death; there was a lot of death)
And yes, that is a very significant way of being authoritarian. Taking people’s property to redistribute is about as authoritarian as it gets.
Yes the God given law of capitalism dictates the only fair way that wealth can be distributed
China is known as state capitalism and it’s an unholy blend of central planning and free markets
with the government owning significant stakes in all key industries, exerting a massive control over both the economy and society as a whole
I’m not a very bright person most the time and when an economy is being discussed that multiplies. But how is that a free market by any definition? Or am I completely misunderstanding what you’re saying?
China is “communist” in the same way NK is “democratic”. It’s just branding.
Communism is when wealth disparity
Literally what half the comments here are saying lmao, like yes and the sky is green everyone knows this
Yea. They want it to be communism. But communism never worked.
Capitalism only works in theory in practice it’s all homeless encampments, people going hungry, wealth inequality, gender inequality, race inequality, global inequality, climate disaster, war.
Capitalism has never worked
A balance between capitalism and socialism is what most countries are already using and has worked for a long time.
Communism is the one that only works in theory and anywhere it has been tried has quickly led to dictatorships or else it has fallen apart.
Edit: what most countries are using (not every country)
Social programs and social welfare aren’t really balancing socialism with capitalism, the means of production is fully owned by capitalists and there is no democratization of it. Sure we have some coops but the vast majority of workplaces are dictatorships
It’s more of a balance between how much is run by companies vs the regulations that the government imposes on those companies.
Pure capitalism doesn’t really exist anywhere.
And what kind of companies are you working for where you feel that your workplace is a dictatorship? If I ever felt that way I would leave and work somewhere else.
Some Lords probably treat their subjects better than others true, at least we moved past serfdom.
Yes workplaces are communist dictatorships. There’s one key difference between a workplace that is a communist dictatorship and a country that is one: you’re at that workplace by your own consent and you can leave.
Communism is okay when people can choose it willingly and opt out any time. When that communist system is competing with other communist systems for resources.
Also, the means of production are largely owned by workers in the United States, given how many companies offer stock to their employees, and how many people work for themselves, and how many people use their own tools, cars, computers, and kitchens to earn money.
LLMs do better than this
