• AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    10 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    In another Global Times publication, Chinese analysts labeled N+2 as SMIC’s 5nm-class production node about a year ago.

    Yet, there are independent proofs from TechInsights that SMIC produced MinerVa Semiconductor Bitcoin mining ASICs on its 7nm-class N+1 technology.

    Meanwhile, SMIC’s Twinscan NXT:2000i deep ultraviolet (DUV) lithography scanners can make chips on 7nm and 5nm technologies, so that the company may have developed a 5nm-class fabrication process.

    Huawei’s HiSilicon is China’s most successful chip designer that has used to adopt TSMC’s leading-edge fabrication technologies.

    After Huawei lost access to American technologies in 2020, HiSilicon could no longer work with the world’s largest contract maker of chips, and it is believed that the parent company helped SMIC to advance its fabrication processes.

    Huawei has not commented on the matter, and even state-ran Global Times does not explicitly say that the HiSilicon Kirin 9000S uses SMIC’s 5nm-class process technology but prefers to call the information a rumor.


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    10 months ago

    It’s nice to see access to one of most important technology of the 21st century not at the hands of a single country whims

    Most people would’ve hoped for it to be from Europe but instead of working to free themselves from USA control over such important tech they regulate random stuff and make themselves look like fools.

    I strongly believe a joint cooperation of the European union could produce a powerful CPU, GPU but they’re sitting on their butts doing nothing. Shame…

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      10 months ago

      Dutch ASML is essential to 7nm and smaller processes. US pitched in enormous amounts of cash in very risky R&D for EUV lithography so they have a say in how it’s used but I wouldn’t say they control it entirely.

      These things are too risky, complex and expensive for any single country/federation or economic block to be on the cutting edge. It’s entirely possible to pour money for years and come up empty.

      EU should pull as many strings as possible to have cutting edge production capacity within own borders in case of emergency but first we’d have to invest heavily in education of engineers and guarantee competitive salaries because it’s incredibly challenging work.

      It took Taiwan a generation to accomplish and even now their manufacturing staff is being poached by China because of economic pressures and likely state funded corporate espionage.

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        10 months ago

        China has invested hugely in education and the engineering field, and it’s not like they’ve just been sitting on their hands upto now - of course they do industrial espionage just like everyone else but they also have absolutely huge r&d budgets and an absolutely huge tech sector.

        Honestly we should all just cut the tribal politics and work together to create technologies which can help avoid future conflicts -people use to say that middle East would descend into water wars by now but solar powered desalination has totally changed that, if we’d replaced oil already then America wouldn’t have needed any of the wars it’s been in for the last fifty years…

        Rather than every country in the world developing it’s own version of everything we should cooperate for a better future.

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        10 months ago

        The brain drain is affecting all the worlds but until recently it wasn’t a big problem in Europe. Now, They all migrate to USA in hope of getting jobs at big techs.

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          They all migrate to USA in hope of getting jobs at big techs.

          Eh… It’s overrated. The pay is better, but otherwise it is definitely a downgrade. Maybe from east EU, it’s a decent deal, from west EU, it’s very disappointing. You basically end up thinking “but the money is good” over and over and wanting to go back to actual civilization.

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    10 months ago

    I am not sure if American legislators realize that all these trade restrictions are only accelerating Chinese domestic chip development. The restrictions have the same effect as import tariffs, which is exactly what a government would do if it wants to protect and/or develop its own fledgling industry.

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      10 months ago

      They were going to figure it out eventually anyway. It buys some time I guess. I don’t know what for, though.

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    10 months ago

    It was only a matter of time before the Chinese started ramping up their own semiconductor capabilities. With all the inevitable industrial espionage involved, I wonder if the west really has that much of a head start in chip design.

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      Doesn’t seem like it. The chip supports SMT aka hyperthreading with 8 cores and 12 threads, which is not something you see on a typical mobile ARM* SoC.

      edit: I missed a word.