• Ledivin@lemmy.world
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    This will have very little effect on SF in the long-term 😂🤣 All of their staff that was here are going to stay here - they’re not going to follow fucking X to whatever ass-backwards state Musk chooses

    So, to recap:

    • we have a huge office that will eventually bring in another major company,
    • the area keeps all of its best talent, and
    • we get rid of the grifter that regularly refuses to pay their rent/lease, taxes, and insurance bills?

    Hell yeah, of course this is a win.

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      whatever ass-backwards state Musk chooses

      Pretty sure he’s headed to Texas.

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      I imagine most of whoever is left at Twitter is on a visa, so yeah, they probably will follow Musk wherever he says to go. The alternative is people rip their families away from their homes that they’ve probably built over the years and move back to their old country.

      Now, if Biden were to grant the power to protect re-employment to other companies for those on L visas, Musk is probably utterly fucked.

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        The alternative is people rip their families away from their homes that they’ve probably built over the years and move back to their old country.

        Musk is very anti-remote-work, so they have to do this anyway. Moving to Texas is only slightly less jarring than moving back to their home country which, in my experience, most people on visas visit regularly anyway.

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      All of their staff that was here are going to stay here - they’re not going to follow fucking Xitter

      At this point, for how he treated his employees, we can assume that most of the ones left are visa hostages that would be deported the day after being fired or incompetent people that faked their way to the spot and can’t find another job that pays the same. Or musk stans, but he fired even that simp that slept in the office floor in order to be more “productive”.

      They are trapped and follow him everywhere

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        Depends on the visa, but usually you get a grace period to find another job. Not a walk in the park but no one is getting auto-deported either.

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      Anyone hardcore enough to still be working at that dumpster fire is there for the long haul, they will follow Formerly Twitter in to the gates of hell, seemingly.

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        I’m guessing some of them (if on work visas) don’t have a lot of mobility. That doesn’t mean they will be as productive as someone else. Seeing colleagues go to other companies and being treated better on day one has a toll on worker morale.

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        Of? Companies leaving CA due to liberal laws? That’s kinda been CA’s thing since forever.

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          Another lemmy echo chamber… It’s pointless to show another kind of opinion. And I’m not far right or anything. I don’t even care about US politics.

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            An echo chamber for calling CA liberal? That’s just well documented reality my guy.

            You don’t care about US politics, which means you probably don’t know much about them. So it very much seems like you’re speaking about something you don’t care or know about. Then when I, a person who does very much care about US politics, chimes in with insight you call it an echo chamber.

            Honestly, it seems like you want to just say whatever you like and then rant and dismiss anyone who knows the topic and pushes back. Ironically, that sounds exactly like how an echo chamber works lol.

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            Another lemmy echo chamber… It’s pointless to show another kind of opinion.

            Sounds like you maybe just have a habit of entering conversations on topics you don’t know much about (and in this case self-admittedly don’t even care about), so you get a lot of people who are more informed and do care expressing their disagreement with you?

            Have you considered just not doing that?

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            An echo chamber of what, exactly? I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make 🤷‍♂️

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      “Turn around!” they begged him, as he strode slowly towards the desert sun, but he knew enough of Lot and of Orpheus, that it would only bring them ruin if he did. So heavy was his heart, that he glanced back with melancholy love, and thus the fair city of San Francisco turned to salt. He kept on walking into that desert sun, a heavy heart keeping him anchored to calls of vultures naysaying his poor sense of direction…

      ~Honestly good riddance to both. I have never seen more narcissists in my life than I have in SF.~

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      Rich people really seem to think that them just having shitloads of money in a location makes that place better. I’m a midwesterner and even I know San Francisco has serious issues from how in about a generation or two it went from a working class industrial and military city to home of several of the wealthiest companies and filled with enough upper working class people to skyrocket cost of living.

      So to Elon, don’t bring X to my city either

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        And they are now bringing that problem to Texas. Along with a bunch of liberals.

        Good. Texas is a big enough state it should be blue.

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      Yeah I think he is expecting an Atlas Shrugged moment. where everything collapses as the intellectuals (him) walk away from the foolish socity.

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        It’s funny, I just finished Atlas Shrugged and it’s crazy how Ayn Rand got it wrong about those who can “do” must also have the highest moral standards.

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    Bye Nazi-toddler, don’t let our tolerance and diversity hit your ketamine addicted ass on its way out, you piece of human garbage.

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        I believe the quote I read from someone who knows him was something like “He microdoses ketamine daily, and macrodoses at parties”

        I wonder if he pisses his pants yet? He must have K bladder by now, unless there is some super rich people secret to avoid it.

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          Wow, because of your comment I’ve googled ketamine bladder and now I can’t consider K as a relatively safe drug anymore.

          20 - 90 % of users got irreversible urinal tract ulceration and significantly reduced functional bladder capacity.

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            That study is really light on information. I’d love to see more useful data if anyone has seen it. Like 20% of people who ever tried it ended up with ulceration? I know that’s not what it’s implying but that’s preposterous. We get one guy who started having problems after 3 years of use. He used ketamine for another two years and ended up with serious issues. That’s crazy, but where was he on the scale of once a week to Matthew Perry?

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        I have no doubts that he frequently does that, as well as other controlled substances. But it’s okay for him to abuse drugs; he’s rich and powerful after all! Though it would be interesting to see his head under an MRI with T2 and see how many Olney’s lesions he has.

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            Maybe they mean Terminator. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is working another job now, the economy is rough.

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            The spin-spin relaxation! I’m not a radiologist, but it’s my understanding that T2 weighted images are the best way to see lesions. And it’s believed that ketamine abuse gives brain lesions. I’d bet a couple bucks that his brain looks like Swiss cheese. (I’m not sure if I missed some reference or if the question was serious btw)

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        Well now when some rando on the internet told you otherwise, you know better :D

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            “small amount once every other week” - his words - doesn’t change anyone’s behaviour, nor does it cause outbursts like “they want to extort me with money? fuck them!”

            so question is how much cocaine does he take in between.

            funny how everyone on lemmy is so anti musk, except when it fits your narrative, then you suddenly trust his own words on a topic of which illegal drugs he abuses… because that is indeed something people are usually honest about ;)

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              Okay, how about others’ words?

              Reports include direct accounts from Tesla board member Joe Gebbia, “where Musk took ketamine recreationally through a nasal spray bottle multiple times.”

              Also-

              In the winter of 2022, former Tesla board member and friend of Musk, Larry Ellison, pushed Musk to visit his private Hawaiian island for a dry out, according to WSJ sources. This seems to have been the worst period for Elon’s drug bender, as other friends encouraged him to take Ellison’s offer, or attend rehab.

              https://qz.com/elon-musk-drugs-telsa-rehab-1851227230

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                None of this can be proof he doesn’t take other drugs.

                Also, I appended the original comment after you replied.

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                  He does take other drugs. But ketamine is apparently the big one.

                  And the thing you appended is about trusting Musk. I’m literally saying to go by the direct accounts of people who have been around him.

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      I hate that ketamine has to be catching so many strays lately… Don’t blame K for this idiot.

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      This is the real story, they ain’t choosin shit. They’re being kicked the fuck out. Elon takin tips from DonOld T

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    it is impossible to operate in San Francisco if you’re processing payments

    Is it though? He talks like he still runs PayPal. All Twitter sells is adverts, blue ticks and hate.

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        Yeah I wonder how many billions of dollars in incentives did Texas Republicans promise that douchebag in order to get him to move to their State. And how many Texans are going to have to foot that bill.

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          Typical Elon, vaunting libertarianism while paying himself with Government payouts.

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            “Privatize the profits and socialize the risks.” (for billionaires)

            “But we can’t let poor people get handouts. That’s socialism.”

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          As of 2020, all of his companies had received around 5 billion in subsidies, tax credits, and the like.

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            Yeah that’s what we call corporate welfare. What exactly did that 5 billion buy anybody? All it did was make that fucking asshole richer.

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      He wants to turn twitter into Wechat, which is used for paying basically everything in China. In San Francisco you can’t just get rich by funneling money, you have to pay taxes on it.

      You would still get rich but he wants it all for himself and doesn’t want to pay his debt to the United States.

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      I’d love to see it fail completely. I’m hoping that musk makes it a site that you have to pay a subscription to see anything at all on there so everyone can finally give up on it.

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      What benefit does musk get from killing twitter? He’s getting something out of it.

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          Thats the sad part. The guy essentially kickstarted the mass adoption of EVs, and the affordable space launch market, both of which I’m totally on board with.

          If he was 40% less psychotic, megalomaniac, and Nazi, things would be OK.

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        After the string of bad decisions he’s already made with this company, what makes you think he’s able to make good choices now? He has an echo-chamber where nobody can tell him to GTFO and that’s literally the only thing he’s ever getting out of it. It’s kinda like if someone paid an obscene amount of money for a junker car, then paid 10x that amount to put vanity plates on it.

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        Yeah, controlling the town square. It’s worth him sinking money into it if he can get favorable tax laws passed as a result.

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    Didn’t Apartheid Lonnie refuse to pay rent for the office space for a while there? Did that ever get resolved or is he still defaulting on the rent?

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    He really is the DJ Khaled of technology… which is not a compliment. Can people not just tell “certain sections” of Texans that an uppity African American with a couple of baby mommas and lots of money is moving in to their neighbourhood? And bringing his “business interests” with him too.

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      He really is the DJ Khaled of technology

      Damn, this is fucking spot on. I’ll be Musk wouldn’t make it to the end on Hot Wings either.

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      it literally could not be anywhere else. Texas is a safe-space for oligarchs and bigots. That’s why Elon and Joe Rogan and all these other asshats left CA for TX.

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      Texas, where woke goes to die.

      Blexus!?

      Sorry, I meant Florida. Texas is going purple baby!

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        Texas, where woke goes to die.

        Blexus!?

        Sorry, I meant Florida. Texas is going purple baby!

        Weeps in despair in South Carolina

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          Young people need to register and vote. If they did, SC would be blue reliably.

          All but 2 states honestly…

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              This might not be the answer, but it is important. This is one of the last videos Beau did before he retired and his wife is taking over. It is still one of my favorite channels, but keep this in mind especially for the next several months, and beyond if things don’t go our way.

              Let’s talk about maintaining hope…

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      Considering how many Bay Area tech workers with zero morals leave cali for Texas purely for lower taxes and how Texas loves that, I’m sure they do

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    Although i hate hearing about him, i do like seeing his face and body rapidly deteriorating.

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      And that’s after he spends a ton of money to get it fixed. If he weren’t rich, he’d be bald by now, for example.

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    I would be happy if all tech left the city. It used to be a hipster village of social non challants and detected alternative social movements. A shining, hairy, culty, body odor having, punk rock city on a hill.

    The tech takeover ruined the city and contributed directly to the epidemic levels of homelessness seen because it made the city effectively so expensive non millionaires can’t survive there. Most long time san Francisco families ended up moving out.

    Take all the rest of tech with you please Mr. Musk. Make San Francisco an affordable city again.

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      It’s too late, the landleeches have already taken over. Any city remotely worth living in is too expensive to live in, and will remain that way until we eliminate the landleech class.