Low birthrate and ageing population pose ‘an urgent risk to society’, but can opening its borders to skilled overseas workers fix the problem?

  • orcrist@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    First, there is no “wrestling”. The policy is clear. Second, the only way to fix declining population is to increase permanent residence, which means either a Permanent Residence Visa or citizenship. But it takes 10 years for Permanent Residence, and Japan bans dual citizenship. Work visas do not fix the problem. But work visas are popular because immigrants can be treated as slave labor.

    In other words, the author of that article has done a small amount of research but is actually being far to generous to a xenophobic and racist government that’s enabling the abuse of foreign laborers.

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      But it takes 10 years for Permanent Residence, and Japan bans dual citizenship.

      not for children of mixed parents

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        Yes, it’s true that they don’t have to choose while they are children. And of course I didn’t explain that it doesn’t always take 10 years for PR because you could use the point system depending on your situation, and also that the Japanese government doesn’t investigate whether people are dual citizens as long as they keep it a secret, but the government could in the future if it really wanted to, so you’re still gambling, etc.

        In other words, obviously it’s a complex legal landscape, and my main goal was to expose the complete failure in focus in the original article and illustrate some of the starting points about the actual issues for those who are not knowledgeable about Japanese immigration law.

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          Europe is the more or less same to be honest. You are never completely assimilated unless you look and speek the same as locals.

      • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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        1 year ago

        That’s not exactly true. They’re fine with you being their temporarily, even for a few years. Try to raise a family there and that consideration goes away.

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          Try to raise a family there

          That’s exactly what I’ve been doing for about 20 years as a matter of fact. No real trouble whatsoever myself, but I can’t even count the number of times now I’ve seen people give my Chinese wife shit and then fumble all over themselves when I (an American) walk up and introduce myself. One old guy at a ramen shop even had the balls to try to explain how much better western and Japanese girls are, while she was sitting right next to me.

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            Want to say that my personal experience nearly matches yours. I was allowed in the birthing room and held my wife’s hand as she gave birth. I was allowed to hold my son for approximately 30 seconds. Then I was kicked out of the hospital and not allowed to return for over a week. I was also expected to be back at work pretty much immediately.

            Finding changing rooms I can use is definitely a trial. I typically assume I won’t be able to find one, and if my wife isn’t with me I plan to use the backseat of my car or similar arrangement.

            The hoikuen workers (approximately translates to daycare, if you don’t know) don’t talk to me when I pick up my son, which is nearly every day. On the rare opportunity that my wife’s schedule allows her to get him, they won’t stop talking about every detail.

            Yeah, gender roles are pretty fixed, and challenging said roles is hard.

  • lntl@lemmy.ml
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    Japan is a super old civilization and they’ve been through plenty of challenging times. They may stick out the next 40 years and continue to do what they have been for the next thousand years.

    You do you Japan!