Hopefully he’s the first of hundreds.
It won’t last longer than another week!
Shower thought with no evidence:
Perhaps some big news will come out that distracts us from this soon. It’ll have to be pretty wild to distract us, so buckle up.
the bullet etchings alone make it a work of art. He picked out the absolute most unloved plutocrat in america. Its very much a masterwork execution at a time when everybody wanted a reprieve from the trump media circus.
Timing: 10/10
Execution: 9/10
Target 10/10
Style: 10/10
We live in a country this happens every day I would take a CEO death over a Sandy Hook every time. I wish shootings weren’t as common but it is what it is.
the absolute most unloved plutocrat in america.
Too bad that’s not trump :(
I don’t know. Trump is special. I’m hoping more "divine smiting’ for him. For a man that so seems to have the Devil’s charisma behind him, what more fitting end could there be than to die by lightning strike?
With my limited view from Germany, thank God that it is not Trump. Presidents come and go, Democrats and Republicans swap places every now and then, but at the end, the US stays an oligarchy. By killing Trump you don’t change much, you might create a public outrage, but it’s like popping a pimple without addressing the acne. It might lead to an even bigger divide within the working class - those who were fooled into voting for Trump vs Democrats vs disappointed, disillusioned Democrats. One of the problems of the election was that not enough left leaning people saw the Democrats as much different from the Republicans, and they are right. Killing a politician would just distract from the problem even more. Just think of how much momentum Trump (and his movement) gained from the assassination attempt.
Here, for once in months, when we see tiktoks or other clips from the public, we cannot even tell immediately where they lean politically - we just see that everyone is fed up with the same crap. Now both left and right, united, experience how the media lies to them and tells a skewed narrative. This is amazing. I sincerely hope it will not die, I hope this will grow and continue to spread like a cancer through society.
It is sad that it took the murder of a person and a young man’s freedom for this.
Don’t give up hope. He’s had 3 attempts already, hoping #4 is a better shot
Reminder that Luigi didn’t do it
Luigis can’t melt steel beams?
Oh you know who did?
That’s conceptually backward to how our justice system (on paper) determines guilt. It has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Luigi did it. Nobody else needs to be convicted or even accused for Luigi to be determined to be innocent.
And there are some good reasons to doubt from what we’ve seen as the public. The cops said they found his backpack in NY but then also found him with his backpack. The pictures don’t quite match. It doesn’t make sense for him to keep incriminating evidence on him in a McDonald’s. There’s a lot about it that stinks.
Most definitely, he isn’t the unibomber largely indiscriminately killing people based on some ideological manifesto, he targeted someone in charge of driving many families into bankruptcy if not outright murdering patients with denials, and targeted a problem that many know to be true. They may be trying to rewrite the legacy of the CEO, but he was not “one of the good guys”.
Although there is some crossover to the unibomber’s manifesto, in the sense that where this would have been the breaking point in societies of the past waiting for a revolution, the new means of control and technology is being used to keep it under control, from all sides, even and specially those that abused social networks to put Trump in power. Can’t have the status quo of “[I can] stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody [but not you]” challenged.
Most definitely, he isn’t the unibomber largely indiscriminately killing people based on some ideological manifesto, he targeted someone in charge of driving many families into bankruptcy if not outright murdering patients with denials, and targeted a problem that many know to be true.
By my math, Brian Robert Thompson killed 40,000 people.
Yes and, board members are the ones enabling the CEOs. They need to be targeted as well.
There’s a lot of overlap.
In recent years, around 30% of newly appointed board members in the S&P 500 have been active or retired CEOs.
And:
CEOs and directors with financial backgrounds constitute 59% of the incoming class of S&P 500 directors…
Source, for whatever it’s worth. I admittedly just did a cursory Google search out of curiosity and that’s what popped up, but I had a feeling it’d be a significant percentage.
This will probably be taken down, but psychology is what I do so here it is. This is not endorsement this is an explanation as to why there’s different sentiment for this shooting.
This was stated in Trevor Noah’s latest podcast in open discussion. Josh Johnson raises the point. Most gun violence stories on the news, people personally feel threatened. Outraged that they or theirs could be at a music festival, a movie, at school. Most assholes with a gun are killing innocent people, never mind all the other bits. And most are clearly a little “crazy.”
This was targeted, killer on killer, no collateral (death/injury) damage. The CEO had kids that’s the collateral damage. There’s even a lady with coffee who walks on scene then nopes out unharmed.
This isn’t endorsement. This WHY the public as a whole doesn’t seem to mind. The guy who died killed thousands. That solves the innocent part. The killer doesn’t feel threatening to any of us. Because he’s not. That solves the threat. As for sanity, gun arguments aside, the manifesto isn’t unhinged.
And so we find ourselves in an unusual space. Understandably so. This is new.
No I didn’t read the article.
The killer is not threatening to you until semeone decides that you deserve to be killed.
Have you killed thousands of people through insurance denials to make a quick buck? No?
Then you’re fine.
Yes, exactly. I don’t think there is anyone in the world who knows me and believes that I, specifically, deserve to be killed. I think almost every person feels the same way. The rare exception being someone who has intentionally profoundly harmed or killed people.
I see you getting downvoted but a lot of doctors get death threats too, and while everyone seems to have a horror story about a doctor they didn’t like, I’m pretty sure most are the scapegoats of a broken system. So yeah, while Luigi’s target was well-chosen, I don’t trust every vigilante to be as smart.
You mean someone like Brian Thompson?
You mean Brian Robert Thompson?
It’s a long standing tradition to refer to serial killers by their full name. Think John Wayne Gacy. It seems appropriate here.
I would say that if you find this particular killer’s motives personally threatening, you should probably resign from your day job and move into your bunker.
That’s the point. “WHY” did they decide it had to be you.
Someone, maybe, a fair point. It will probably happen at work if at all given the boring, “helper” life I lead.
But not this guy. That’s the salient point.
You watch yourself on that slippery slope now.
No shit… The gaping hole is the fact rich fucks are all we have to vote for. The President that recently won is the biggest example of undeserved wealth and power ever.
We need to bring back “No taxation without representation” because rich fucks sure as hell can’t fairly represent the rest of us.
you had me at “gaping hole”
Tell ya what. I’m struggling to make rent right now. Working 6 days a week, living alone, just keeping my head above water.
2028, everybody vote for me, and I’ll run on the platform of giving rich people the middle finger.
Like Robin Hood…except vulgar.
If someone ran for governor of NY on a platform of giving Luigi a full pardon, they would win in a landslide.
You can’t afford to even run. You gonna start a gofundme?
You have my vote
And my axe!
Robin Fucking Hood? RFH!!! It has s ring! Sure I’ll vote for you!
Eh, feels very populist and single issue. What’s your plan for healthcare like?
Tbf whatever they come up with will most likely be better than whats currently happening.
You could invent a better political system by tattooing every political idea onto your skin and passing whichever words get zits into law, so obviously it goes without saying
Give it to the people who need it.
You ever have a boil lanced?
I’m from Australia and I’m quite obsessed with this, so it’s a pretty global feeling.
Am from Germany. I want them to know this is what happens if they ever take our health care away. Pry it from my cold dead hands and all that. Luigi is a hero!
I think for those of us who have universal healthcare, it still has the David vs Goliath appeal.
I’m not from Australia, but every Australian I’ve ever interacted with has been good people.
…so I don’t think your username is apt.
You can be a dumbass and a good person! Cheers for the compliment, but it’s a pretty apt description of me a lot of the time lol.
Because he’s done more to fix our healthcare system than any politician.
He can fix us.
We need more Luigis for some more fixing.
I wouldn’t say fixed as things are the same way as they are, but reminded us how every day we are fucked by oligarchs.
This is a weird time as we just elected them, just look how many billionaires are in trump’s cabinet picks.
as we just elected them
That’s because the system is rigged. We can only ever choose between one rich person and another.
People love a martyr. Our man Luigi has become one, and it’s exactly what the cause has needed.
Those of us with UHC will not forget. I spent 2 years trying to get mental health help through UHC.
But will it be sustained? Or burn out?
Well, something isn’t going to stop burning. Remember, when Brian Robert Thompson hit the pavement, he didn’t stop falling. He fell, and fell, and fell, right into the gaping maw of the Pit of Hell itself.
The man died utterly unrepentant for mass murder. On the morning of his death, he was on his way to a conference, a conference where he planned to openly celebrate the record profits he earned from all the people he killed.
If that isn’t enough to Damn a soul for all eternity, I don’t know what is.
I can’t speak for everyone. All I know is that every time I notice the deduction in my paycheck that’s going toward my health insurance, I’ll be thinking of this. Same with when I have to pay a co-pay despite having said-insurance. Or when I get a text from the urgent care, months after my visit, telling me I still have “a balance” to resolve…
Really, there is no shortage of reminders for many of us. As long as the system keeps squeezing us, we will have plenty of reminders.
Quest diagnostics wouldn’t let my phlebotomist do the digital part of my bloodwork until I paid my debt to them. She tried everything, and their software locked her out. She was getting quietly furious as she messed with her computer while apologizing to me.
I’ll be thinking about that everytime I need healthcare.
Oh and just so everyone knows, Quest Diagnostics has been in federal court for Medicaid fraud several times and yet their allowed to keep operating. But its definitely “unnecessary care” driving up healthcare costs
https://bergermontague.com/quest-diagnostics-pay-1-79-million-settle-false-claims/
Mainstream media will try to move it to the next news cycle to be forgotten. We will keep the flame lit ourselves.
Will it? I’m already sensing it dying down. I think we need a refresher.
I feel like many people are secretly hoping for a refresher. Nobody just wants to say it out loud.
We need another dead CEO.
I assume that means you agree
Ayup, just couldn’t think of a witty caption so I invoked the Spirit of the Meme.
We’ve had one dead ceo, yes… But what about second dead ceo?
It’s interesting how memes took on different meanings depending on the community you were in when you initially saw it. Some of them are pretty globally recognized, and others are more vague.
I wonder how older ones will transform in a decade or so.
Overly attatched girlfriend just looks like a cute girl. Meanwhile the little girl who burned down that house is going to college. Reminding you just how old you are.
Oh look, it got said outloud.
eats popcorn
Someone should do a second CEO assassination but this time maybe the oil industry so they know that no CEO is safe.
Orrrrr…what if we got a casket industry ceo…you know. For the hilarious irony.
Big Casket is ripping people off with their over priced coffins.
This was already famously a problem back in the times of The Lebowski
I hate to say it, but I do need oil. Nobody should need USA-style health “insurance”.
If anyone is thinking about copy catting they aren’t exactly going to be posting it to their socials.
No, but the news will cover it.
Social media companies have been removing pro-Luigi content and people with big built up accounts are worried that too many violations of site standards could get their accounts killed.
I wonder. I still talk about snowden being a hero and I get some yahoo arguing with me. heroes of the millenia.
Snowden was a hero. Though, seeing him endorse RFK Jr. was a little questionable.
Snowden, and Greenwald by extension, are perfect examples of how being right about one thing doesn’t make someone right about everything. I also have serious problems with how Snowden chose to whistleblow, though the actual whistleblowing was necessary.
Definitely made a deal with the devil. I can’t say I wouldn’t do the same in his shoes though, and I’m as anti-Russia as they come.
There were a lot of options for non-extradition before Russia. Even the route he took when he fled doesn’t make a ton of sense unless he’s selling the information to America’s security competitors. My guess is he genuinely believed in leaking the information and he got paid to do it by one or more foreign countries.
I’m beyond fuzzy on the details. I’ll have to read a refresher honestly.
the pardon talk may have influenced him on that.
Yeah Snowden disclosed important information in a responsible way; I don’t question his intentions. Assange on the other hand…
aSsANgAe oN tHe oHeR HanD
Damn, you got me
Got to get up early to fool me Morty.
That will be much more relevant in the coming days. Remember, autocrats give no fucks about even pretending to not be doing those things.
What about decepticons?
I’ve been surprised by how many people are celebrating this guy. Just goes to show how strongly the contempt is felt for the American healthcare system.
When you remember when “pre-existing conditions” was a thing until Obama stopped it and the fear that it will be allowed again, you absolutely are not going to shed a damn tear. If you really want to be depressed, watch Sicko by Michael Moore. Things have changed a little bit since then, but the attitude of the insurance and big pharma have absolutely not. The no surprises act that went in this year was another step forward, but who knows how long it will stick. People still go to other countries to get medical procedures and medication. People still go bankrupt from medical bills. People still have to spend hours on the phone begging some underpaid drone to get them healthcare because what your doctor says you need is overriden by a fucking corporation.
Some comments from Michael Moore yesterday: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2024/12/16/michael-moore-response-united-healthcare-ceo-shooting-luigi-mangione/77020835007/
I think it’s more about class warfare than healthcare specifically. All my European friends are cheering him on too despite not experiencing hardship with healthcare
As an American: it’s absolutely both.
Everyone in Canada here loves him too. It’s absolutely about class warfare.
I mean…that doesn’t count. Canada loves EVERYODY. It’s the Mr Rodgers of countries. Not that that’s a bad thing. I’m just saying it carrys about as much weight as your grandma pinching your cheek and saying you’re the MOST handsome boy.
lol we don’t love everyone. Ask a Canadian how they feel about Americans.
Aside from the fact that you just offered a stereotype as an argument, you didn’t even get the stereotype right. Canadians don’t love everyone. Canadians are nice. That’s the stereotype.
…stereotype?
And we aren’t even nice. We are just spineless and struggle with honesty. It’s all just for show
I’ve now lived long enough to actually meet a couple of Canadian assholes. They exist.
Are you saying I’m not nice :(
You should pay more attention to history. Specifically the wars we have been in…
Lol you should ask Indians how they are being treated in Canada right now
See Starlight Tours for an insight into friendly Canadian police :/
My girlfriend was very much in the club of “murder is bad no matter what” until I explained exactly why a health insurance CEO would be targeted.
I’ve been really wrestling with my own anti-violence and the now-obvious fact that violence gets results.
Violence, bribery and blackmail.
Europeans are famously derisive of the American healthcare system though, so for whatever reason they seem to care specifically about his impact on that. I think in general America looms large around the world, economically, militarily, culturally. And certainly online. Having something to feel superior about seems to provide a channel for pent up frustration or resentment. Because believe me there’s no other reason for Europeans to care as much as they do about how much my healthcare costs.
the American
healthcarewealthcare system
I doubt this, just keep McDonald’s open and people will soon forget
