• ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    I mean nepotism happens everywhere and it happens in a varying amount of ways. The fact you know the right someone is typically called “networking” but its nepotism with a fancy coat of paint on it. Sure people who get hired to due to nepotism probably do a ton of work but its clear the nepotism got their foot in the door to be where you are. Having 2 famous actors as parents probably helped move his career far more than most since yeah most people who work from the ground up with no reference probably work as hard as him (likely even more than him) but he had the luck of having the right parents.

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      11 months ago

      I’m not denying that. But that’s not nepotism. Nepotism is getting being shown favoritism because of your relation to someone rather than your abilities. That doesn’t seem to be the case here.

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        You don’t think his first set of gigs weren’t because he had actor parents to the point, his first role was as an antagonist in the blockbuster Hunger Games (this doesn’t imply that film series is good but its big enough to make a huge splash in your career). Most upstart actors start as extras and take far smaller role, its pretty obvious he had preferential treatment because of who is related to. Good for the dude for making use of the opportunities given to him and he does good work today but at least he isn’t denying that his bloodline is a decent part of his success.

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          That’s not the same thing. Having opportunities that other people don’t have because of who your parents are is not the same thing as being given a job because of who your parents are. If he had to audition, it’s not nepotism. If he didn’t, it is.

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            11 months ago

            Really, like fucking really? Are you suggesting if you “interview” for the job its no longer nepotism. What are you talking about? That is such an absurd concept.

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              No. I’m suggesting if he got the job because he earned it then it’s not nepotism. Read what I’m writing. Stop building up some straw man because you’re not able to read.

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                Again how did he get into the position to earn it. He had a privilege many don’t have. If he biggest concerns are being called a nepobaby, I think he is doing just fine with himself. There are many talented people who simply don’t get these opportunists. So its great for him that he was able to make use of the opportunities given to him but its undeniable. You are the one trying to force the definition of nepotism being solely based on “no merit”. As I already said most people get their positions because of nepotism we just call it a shiny new thing.

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                  What do you mean? He auditioned for the roles and got them? No one is arguing that he’s not doing fine with himself. No one is arguing that people don’t have the same opportunities. That doesn’t make it nepotism. You know who else does really well for themselves and gets opportunities normal people don’t get, including in Hollywood even when they don’t have family there? Rich people. I’m not trying to force anything on anyone. I’m merely calling it out because it’s not nepotism in this case since he’s not just handed these jobs because of his family connections. For some reason, people want to redefine nepotism to be about the privilege of being in a family that’s known in the industry but that’s not what nepotism is. It is solely about being given something based on that family connection rather than on merit or qualifications.