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    Technically Kyles gun was properly documented if not legally obtained, so Luigi’s homemade firearm is still a harder case to win.

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      Kyle also crossed state lines with said firearm explicitly looking for trouble.

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        Not in NYS, unfortunately. To even touch a pistol, legally, you need a permit here. Even if you made it.

        The only exception is black powder pistols, unless you have powder and shot as well.

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        But you didn’t 3D print your lower like Luigi did. As I understand the lower is legally “the gun”.

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          Nope. I’m not who you replied to, but you’re misunderstanding.

          When people talk about “80 percent” in this context, they mean the firearm. For an AR, it is the lower receiver. Whether it was 3D printed has no legal bearing, federally. I could carve one out of wood or styrofoam, or fashion one from modeling clay, it doesn’t change the law.

          Federally, and in most states, it is legal (for anyone who is otherwise allowed to own guns) to manufacture a firearm. Period. No paperwork, no serial number, no background check. Nada. This is how the law currently works.

          The media likes to refer to these as “ghost guns” because it sounds spooky.

          In California and Connecticut, it needs a serial number permanently marked on it even as an 80% lower. 13 other States also have laws which touch on this.

          It is my understanding that Mangione employed an 80% pistol, so it was likely a Glock-compatible copycat.

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            Luigi’s issue is the non NFA registered suppressor plus all those NY gun laws he broke (in addition to the homicide).

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              Even if registered, it’s still illegal to possess in NYS. Its not legal to possess any NFA items in NYS, unless you’re a cop.

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              7 hours ago

              homicide *execution

              And to clarify I don’t normally believe in vigilante justice but these people removed themselves from the justice system so why should they be protected by it?

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                Homicide isn’t just a legal term. See also fratricide, sororicide, patricide, matricide, suicide, regicide, etc.

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          I milled the lower out of a block of aluminum. It’s 100% legal to make your own firearms in this country. Stop talking out of your ass about things you know nothing about.