• notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    The difference here is that you made a post against community guidelines. Where as in this case the guy seems to have been banned for wrong think.

    Man, it’s such a shitty hill to die on.

    1. When I posted, there was no specific guidance on “incest jokes” at r/Showerthoughts that I am aware of.
    2. Normalizing nazi shit goes against most communities guidelines, somewhere around the general, “don’t post hateful stuff” requirements
    3. If communities can have their own rules, they are free to ban people for hateful shit.
    4. And yeah, Musk made a nazi salute, which at this point is a pretty objective fact (Tesla’s track record of racial harassment, EM’s track record of boosting nazi shit on X, EM renaming self as Kekius Maximus, talking about the “future of our civilization” while doing the gesture, repetition, and turning as per nazi protocol, etc etc.). The only things that are up for debate are A) why did he do it? B) Was he chemically impaired while doing it.

    Hear me out. Let’s remove the politics from this equation for a second

    Let’s say I stood on a podium, did pelvic thrusts and formed a V with my fingers stuck my tongue through them making circular motions with it, and when people got upset, I responded to with pussy jokes. Would you interpret my actions as an “awkward gesture”? You could, but people would consider you either a perv, or a troll. Same applies here.

    So yeah, stop normalizing nazi shit.

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      3 hours ago

      People here seem to be confused between me endorsing “Nazi shit”, which I am not, and me backing the freedom of speech.

      I don’t know why this is such a hard concept to grasp.

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        3 hours ago

        me backing the freedom of speech. I don’t know why this is such a hard concept to grasp.

        FYI, your comment history is public, so people have more context for your posts here than you assume.

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          3 hours ago

          I don’t care. Read my full comment history if you want, you’ll find I’m quite clearly a left winger.

          I really don’t know what my comment history has to do with my ability to defend freedom of speech.

          I couldn’t care less if people want to take issue with my opinions, I only ask that it’s kept civil and the debate is kept relevant to the subject, I’m not interested in personal attacks.

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            2 hours ago

            I only ask that it’s kept civil and the debate is kept relevant to the subject

            1. The general societal norm is that nazi shit isn’t considered civil and EM’s doubling down with nazi jokes eliminates the “awkward gesture” defense. So you are expecting civility from others while defending something you claim to consider hateful too.
            2. Your priorities are extremely misplaced when this happens concurrently with the US federal government undergoing “ideological review” (their words).

            I’m getting really tired of self-claimed “left wingers” advancing the alt-right agenda. You’re either a useful idiot, or dishonest.