I’ve been determined to finally beat Zelda II and determine that I would do it without save states and without a guide.

I know Zelda II is considered a black sheep somewhat but I really think in some ways it’s more fun than the original although I’d still pick Zelda 1 over II.

  • icermiga@lemmy.todayEnglish
    81·
    11 months ago

    It’s obviously nothing like a modern title but I don’t think that’s quite fair - it holds up in the sense that it’s fun, it has good combat challenge and exploration, honestly it does. You do have to overlook lack of QoL features and the fact that you basically have to read the manual, but I don’t think it’s fair to mark a game down for lacking those things. It lacks the puzzles, NPCs and stories of later Zeldas but it doesn’t try to have those.

    Zelda 2 siimilarly lacks QoL features but it has excellent combat that’s actually challenging, but fair, so yeah if you’re open to it you could have a good gaming experience there.

    • Ook the Librarian@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      11 months ago

      the fact that you basically have to read the manual

      This is no joke and deserves a bit of emphasis. NES games expect you to read the manual.

      I did my first play of Zelda 2 about 5 years ago. I didn’t like it as kid, but I loved my adult playthrough. I will note that this was one of the games that I got stuck until I read the manual.

      Another Z2 pointer, to anyone that wants to give it a go, is that you can logically “soft lock” the game with bad key management. It’s unlikely, but if you like to look for unintended orders to do game goals, it could happen.

      • TORFdot0@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        2·
        11 months ago

        If you do mess up and miss a key, you can always use fairy to pass through the door. This is actually how I got the cross because I couldn’t figure out how to get the magic key until I could see the ghosts in old Kasuto. And search the houses for the clue

        • Ook the Librarian@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          11 months ago

          I would be careful with the word “always”. A softlock can occur by entering a later dungeon to steal some of its keys. You can use the surplus keys to beat an early dungeon without collecting its item. This locks the item in the dungeon. Hope you didn’t need that later.

          • avatar@lemm.eeEnglish
            2·
            11 months ago

            But couldn’t you go to where the alternative dungeon’s keys are, get those and come back to get the earlier dungeon’s item that way?

            I can’t see how you can softlock?

    • Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      11 months ago

      It has the stories, but back in those days they were in the form of books and shit. Remember the original Warcraft like half of the lore was in the extra shit they released with it.