Nearly everyone will be unemployed soon.
I mean I’ve been calling for a general strike but…
Unions better be a whole fuckin lot more popular after this…
And hopefully the president’s tariff powers are henceforth limited
What?! No! We’re all going to work in American factories! /s
All those factories that aren’t there because all companies decided to move them to China (or another overseas country) to cut costs :D
Don’t worry, it will all trickle down eventually!
When I was a little bitty baby
My mama would rock me in the cradle
In them old cotton fields back home
buying consumer crap generally requires consumer income. the us will quickly become a backwater global export destination for anything other than 1% luxury items because the poors will simply be too poor to matter wrt global demand.
Nah, it won’t be that bad. Underemployment numbers are going to skyrocket though. You want 10 hours this week? Hah. But at least you’re getting that higher rate, right?
Oh, you’re not getting that rate yet? Ouch.
No we will all work the fields and share the work with our comrades, glorious leader will ensure we all get a fair share from our hard work. ⚒️
So what? If there is one thing Donald Trump has made clear, it’s that he doesn’t give a shit what economists think.
Laura Loomer is definitely not an economist.
Giving her the credit for firing a bunch of people was her price for his latest blowie.
You know how you can tell we’re fucked? They’re not saying we’re going to be in a recession anymore. They’re saying “its going to be similar to a recession”.
More men for the meat grinder when his misguided leadership entices China to war. It is going to be ugly and it is entirely preventable. Our vices have blinded us, dulled our intellects and made Trump possible.
nope he is going after our allies. he literally has talked about it
Chances are he’ll be fighting China because they offer help to Canada and Greenland against the US/Russian pinch.
Fuck you Americans.
All going according to plan. Sink the economy, blame everyone else, start a war, profit immensely, institute dictatorship, ramp up deportations/jailings/executions.
Trump’s feels about his flex are far more important than the damage he does to the rest of us.
I voted for Trump because I trusted him to make the economy great again and if this is how he’s doing it then I will trust in the plan.
My brother in Christ there ain’t even bait in that hook
Sometimes fish can be so starving they’ll strike at anything that hits the water.
I feel kind of bad when they they do, like releasing them is the wrong thing to do in that instance. I do it anyway because the next one might be bigger
Lol a SMCF satire comment in the positive? People must be catching onto you lmao
No I think it’s because they understand Trump’s plan too.
Ya you’re right! I myself have been coming around to Trump’s master plan and clearly it just takes a true visionary to understand it 😌
No one in real life is actually that amazingly stupid.
The average IQ levels and media literacy seem to be higher on lemmy than other internet spots. I’m so proud today.
We’re making America great again! 1929 was a beautiful year!
It was the start of something great.
I’m with you SatansMaggotyCumFart
Yay! It’s the guy that loves the Jan 6 traitors back to starting internet arguments over loving traitors
Trump said they’re not traitors anymore now they are heroes.
Lolol. You’re an asshole, but that legit made me chuckle
It’s satire. Check the post history.
Dude.
Companies whose products are entirely made in the U.S. could benefit: “At least in the short term, employment would likely rise there, because those folks will see more demand,” says Holzer. That could mean cumulative hikes of tens of thousands or even a few hundred thousand jobs added in the next three or four months, he says.
This is the entire point of the tariffs.
Also, I’m not entirely sure why they put the short-term qualifier there. In fact, it would seem that companies who make everything in the US would stand to benefit long-term, and also that more companies will invest in domestic production, which will create more jobs in the long run.
But US companies cannot make everything in the US. The industrial base was off-shored. And on-shoring means automation to be cost-effective. Which is not going to produce tons of blue collar jobs. And that is even without tariffs.
Want to build electronics? China is somewhere in your supply chain, meaning costs will go up. Want to make a camera? Oops, the rare earths you need to add to the camera lens are not available in the US.
And who is going to buy all this US made stuff? Because all exports are taxed as well.
If the government wants to bring back industry, be more self-reliant. You do so by subsidizing certain industries, tweak tariffs on specific goods, removing red tape for the construction of specialized factories which play a key part in supply chains. Not just put tariffs on everything and everyone and hope for the best. This is how the great depression started.
But US companies cannot make everything in the US. The industrial base was off-shored.
Sure they can, they just won’t, because it’s cheaper to make in China. And that’s the whole point of the tariffs, to level the playing field and make US manufacturing more competitive.
And who is going to buy all this US made stuff?
Americans of course. The US is still the biggest market in the world.
They literally can’t. The US has only 1(!) rare earth refinery for instance. And only 3 copper smelters. China isn’t just cheaper, and that advantage is going away as well anyway, but it also developed enormous amounts of capabilities and expertise in the last 20 years that no once can match.
And even if that’s the goal, slapping giant tariffs across the board is not going to help. Some of these industries take years if not decades to develop, specifically educated staff and billions of dollars worth of investments.
Good luck buying fresh vegetables in the winter, most of which come from the Southern Hemisphere. You can’t just move the cultivation of off season crops to America.
Many, many things can’t be created here, and we have things that other countries can’t create. The world has spent decades working out a complex network of trade agreements so that everybody gets what they need, while benefitting their economies.
Then this buffoon staggers into the room, destroying this delicate balance because he has a breath-taking level of mental illness that deludes him into thinking he is genuinely smarter than anyone else in the world, especially knowlegable economists. He alone has conceived of this innovative tariff strategy that literally nobody else has ever considered, and he is pathologically convinced he is 100% correct.
His ignorance and mental illness is going to cause massive upheavals across the entire globe, and cause great suffering and death. It is not worth it because of a misguided hope for a few thousand jobs.
Most of the southern states are warm enough to grow veggies year-round. California alone supplies like half of the US’s produce.
That’s not how agriculture works. If ALL your produce has to come from America you will not have things like tomatoes or lettuce or bananas every month of the year.
Besides, who’s going to pick the crops?
You think they can’t grow lettuce or tomatoes in California?
And bananas will still be available, they’ll just be more expensive.
Also, if your economy relies on illegal immigrants to harvest your crops, how is that any better than slavery? It’s basically indentured servitude.
They can grow lettice and tomatoes in California, but not year round. You obviously have never had a large vegetable garden or worked on a farm. You can’t grow tomatoes in California in the winter. You can’t grow lettuce in the high summer.
Even more importantly, you can’t stagger their harvest times to have a harvest for every crop every week or month. All vegetables have their optimum season, based on length of day, temperature, rainfall, humidity, etc. You can’t simply short circuit nature to suit your demands. Without imports from Central and South America, we will go months without seeing many crops.
And yes, bananas will be more expensive, and so will many other crops. That’s the entire point of why people are upset about this - nearly EVERYTHING is going to up.
Many migrant farm workers arent illegal, they are here on agricultural work visas.
And even if they were illegal, how does that translate to slavery or indentured servitude? Those are involuntary, with little or no pay, and no personal agency. They are OWNED.
Migrant farm workers get paid, that’s why they go to all the trouble to do it. When the harvest season ends, they go back home to their families, or the move on to next crop. They are NOT owned by anyone.
They can grow lettice and tomatoes in California, but not year round.
Of course they can, ever heard of greenhouses?
Also, places like the Imperial Valley have ideal growing climate throughout the winter and crank out a massive amount of produce.
You should really do a bit more research before posting such nonsense.
I’ve done way more research into growing crops by actually growing crops.
We have produce in our grocery stores year round because we are able to import them from various microclimates as they ripen. Without imports, it would be impossible to have that same year round coverage of so many different crops. For instance, lettuce can’t be grown anywhere in the continental US in hot months like July and August. They bolt and get bitter in the heat. We might be able to grow lettuce in California or Florida in the winter, but not in large enough quantities to supply the salad and sandwich needs of the entire country.
And it would take an incredible number of greenhouses to fill the needs of the entire country, and they still wouldn’t solve all problems. You said yourself that we already produce half the produce we require, so if growing crops year round is so easy with greenhouses and such, why arent we already supplying ALL of our crops? Surely it would be cheaper, easier, and more profitable to grow them right here rather than importing them, so why aren’t we doing it?
What about fruit, which is often grown on trees, and can’t be grown in greenhouses? You can’t make an apple tree produce fruit outside of their normal harvest season. I live in Florida, and pass orange orchards every day. They have one harvest season, and that’s it. If we want oranges in the off season, they have to be imported.
Temperature isnt even the primary issue in growing crops, although it is very important. The amount of daylight is the bigger factor. Crops flower and produce their fruit or vegetables based on the light cycle. The lettuce I mentioned earlier doesn’t bolt and produce seeds (ruining the plant for eating) because its hot, it is responding to the long daylight hours. You can’t change the way the Earth revolves around the sun and wobbles on its axis, so you would have to grow indoors under lights. That’s what weed growers do, but weed is a much higher yield plant that can be grown in much smaller indoor facilities. You couldn’t grow enough indoor off-season tomatoes or watermelons to supply the entire nation.
Without imports, it is simply impossible to supply a steady supply of produce year round, using only the climate of the continental US, even with greenhouses. Without imports, it is simply a fact that our grocery stores will be full of some produce for a few months of the year, scarce in others, and non-existent for several months. Prices will fluctuate wildly. We will be forced to rely on inferior canned vegetables, although many canned brands are imported from other nations, like tomatoes.
Then there are those regional crops, that are almost exclusively grown elsewhere, and not even grown in the US, like many spices and herbs.
You sound like HitlerPig, going on and on defending your impossible scheme that is based entirely on your own imaginary and ignorant ideas, no matter how much evidenc and experience contradicts it.
Lets work through this logic shall we. Lets say those companies setup production in the US, in the scenario where all required inputs are US based and produced then the only other determining factor for price increases would be wages. Do you think the end price would be cheaper or more expensive then what China can produce? In order to compete with China you have to have their level of wages in an economy that supports that low level of cost of living. Now lets see how scenario two plays out where at least some of the inputs still have to be imported, same result as before but just more costs to add onto the end product passed to the consumer.
This is a rather simplified outlook but I am curious if you can see what the dilemma would be those scenarios particularly for the US.
