2023 was the year that GPUs stood still::A new GPU generation did very little to change the speed you get for your money.

  • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    Hands up if you/someone you know purchased a Steam Deck or other computer handheld, instead of upgrading their GPU 🙋‍♂️

    To be honest I stopped following PC hardware altogether because things were so stagnant outside of Intel’s alder lake and the new x86 P/E cores. GPUs that would give me a noticeable performance uplift from my 1060 aren’t really at appealing prices outside the US either IMO

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      9 months ago

      From 2020 I planned on building a new gaming PC. Bought an ITX case and followed hardware releases closely… And then got disillusioned with it all.

      Picked up a Steam Deck in August of 2022 and couldn’t be happier with it. The ITX case is collecting dust.

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      9 months ago

      To be honest I stopped following PC hardware altogether because things were so stagnant

      That’s exactly what happened to me as well.

      It’s not exciting at all to pay attention to mediocre launches of expensive products. The GPU in my gaming PC is several generations old at this point but I don’t really care. There are still plenty of good games that will run fine on it and I’m just going to hold tight. There are games that I still have yet to purchase that will run fine on my hardware. I’m not going to give my money to terribly optimized games or games that require high-end hardware.

      The more expensive PC gaming becomes the more high-end hardware doesn’t really matter. I think developers and publishers know that they need to target the average consumer because they need to sell volume on these games. If the average gamer is playing on older and/or lower end hardware then they need to service that market. There aren’t enough 4090 buyers to sell the volume they need to make money. Hell, at these prices I’m not sure there are even enough 4070 or even 4060 level buyers to do that. Tons of people lost interest and aren’t buying into this even if you still see posts online of people purchasing new GPUs.

      I waited out the crypto market and I don’t have problems waiting longer.

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      9 months ago

      I’m surprised so many people are cross shopping tbh. I briefly considered steam deck, but specs are barely enough to play at 1080p so it’s completely useless when docked and a purely portable device with a tiny screen and gamepad carries very little value to me personally.

      I ended up getting eGPU enclosure for my laptop and grabbing a 1080ti from a friend that didn’t need it anymore. I’m able to play D4 at 4k on medium settings.

      Even if I had to buy a gpu like I was originally planning, ~$800 total to play in 4k on a 43" screen with a mouse and keyboard is a completely different experience from anything Xbox or steam deck offer.

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    9 months ago

    I wanted to upgrade my 1060 for the longest time for something like the 3080. But during to demand and prices hikes, I waited… 40 series got released and the prices stayed high.

    So I just gave up, I got a steam deck and PS5 instead.

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      9 months ago

      A lot of people did this. The GPU market for gaming might have actually shrunk. You would think Nvidia would panic but due to AI chip demand their stock is at an ATH and no company changes course or reevaluates and what they’re doing when shareholders are lining up to suck their dicks, so…no end in sight. Meanwhile AMD doesn’t seem to want to even try to make a play for market share.

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        Technically AMD does have more market share when you think about all the devices has AMD in them like Playstation, Xbox, steam deck and other handhelds.

        But yeah Nvidia doesn’t care about gaming anymore, If I had to pick a GPU today, I would pick AMD because Nvidia 6-8 VRAM isn’t enough and AMD is better on linux.

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          9 months ago

          If you want to do any game streaming though (e.g. on Sunshine/moonlight), Nvidia is still miles ahead.

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            9 months ago

            I recently experimented with both of those on AWS and they are completely not usable atm. At least not over WAN and with gpu mounted to a device you don’t have compete control over.

            Does streaming work any better over LAN?

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              9 months ago

              Nvidia game stream is incredibly robust over the internet. Nothing else even comes close. The latency is incredibly low and the video quality is awesome with almost no compression artifacts like competitors often suffer from. A buddy and I used to stream our home PCs to the office when it was slow and even with both of us streaming at the same time the performance was great. If you weren’t playing a twitch shooter you could honestly hardly even tell it was streamed. This was over a meager 100mbps connection too.

              The next closest alternative is Parsec which can manage very low latency, at the expense of significant compression artifacts if your connection isn’t rock solid or your CPU isn’t the fastest.

              Steam link streaming is a very distant 3rd, and I actually found that critical components of many games simply did not work. Like for example Unity games where you adjust your camera by pushing and holding a button while dragging the mouse would just not work.

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            9 months ago

            What are some issues AMD is having there? The sunshine pages show both AMD and Intel support now is I assumed they were gtg

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              9 months ago

              The issue is down to encoding performance, Nvidia performs a LOT better with comparable GPUs.

              With that said, h265 is okay from what I’ve seen, but any devices you’re streaming to that use h264 and even a 1060 will stream better than a 6750xt etc

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    9 months ago

    I finally upgraded my GTX970 to a used RTX 3080 for 300€. The difference at least for me for the same 300€ was insane.

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    9 months ago

    I just don’t see the point in upgrading every new release anyway, or even buying the most expensive one. I’ve had my gigabyte Rx 570 for several years and I can play Baldurs Gate 3 full settings with no issues. Maybe I haven’t tasted 120 fps but I’m just happy I can play modern games. When it comes time to get a new graphics card, which may be soon since I am planning to build my wife’s PC, maybe then I’ll see what’s going on with the higher end ones. Maybe I’m just a broke ass though.

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    9 months ago

    So how about the 2½ years from 2016 to 2018 between Nvidia GFX 1080ti and RTX 2080?
    I think the headline should say A Year not THE year.

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      9 months ago

      To be honest I think it’s just AI developers gobbling them all up because Nvidia’s dedicated workload and professional GPUs are always sold out. Plus spending 1400$ on games is ridiculous, and that’s coming from somebody with a ryzen 7800x3d and a 7900xtx. I regret it so much, such a waste of money.

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        Having a 7900XTX and a 5800X…I don’t really get the wate of money part. I can throw everything at it and it runs exceptionally well with 5120x1440 resolution. Most, if not all,is running well inside Freesync 2 range…I couldn’t be any happier and since I’m getting old now, I’d compare it to the Athlon 64 X2 times with a Radeon 850 XT…between that and now, I never had a system that did so well with the games of it’s time.

        Edit: Oh you mean spending 1400 on games…well, yeah, games are ridiculously priced…considering you don’t really own a copy either…

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      9 months ago

      How was that change? I’m thinking of doing the same, but it requires a power supply update too, so I’m on the fence.

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        9 months ago

        Fwiw, I’ve been running a 3080FE for nearly 3 years now and it’s still more than enough to run basically anything I care to on max settings (or close to it) @2.5k. Got it through Best Buy, so I paid list price (but it was a massive pain in the ass to actually snag one through their queueing system). It was pricey, but it was a HUGE perf uplift, since I was coming from a GTX 1070 as well.

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    9 months ago

    I just upgraded from a 970GTX to a 2060S I bought on AliExpress. Bargain.

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      9 months ago

      I recommend running GPU-Z to verify the 2060S is actually a 2060S, it’s well known that there’s fakes sold on that site as well as many others.