Satellite imagery taken after the US strike on Iran’s Fordow site showed smoke rising from the fuel enrichment plant. US President Donald Trump claimed key Iranian nuclear sites had been “obliterated,” while Iran claimed it had removed nuclear material from the sites before the strikes.

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    That’s fairly true of everyone and everything. We are born into a culture and it influences us greatly. I don’t think adults get any kind of a pass because of that. Certainly Americans of voting age have options about what to think and believe, regardless of where they start out.

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      That’s basically victim blaming. You are implying they have a choice to be less gullible? And yeah, it is a large group, the size of it doesn’t really matter. The powers that be are taking advantage of the masses for thier own purposes. And they know they are doing it.

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        As an outsider, I don’t blame the people who voted for him the first time but the second time? Nope. People had a choice to be less gullible because there was evidence that he is not fit to lead: felony charges, nepotism, incompetence, derangement etc.

        It’s cognitive dissonance from the top down.

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          That’s not how gullible works. You don’t have a choice. Evidence doesn’t matter if you are convinced it is fake news. And yes, I have met people who really believed all of that was fake news.

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        I’m saying they are adults and they have some responsibilities. I have lived in a place where thought options were actively suppressed, and I know how much freedom and information access Americans have. It’s true there is abuse and manipulation and lying out there. But no, I am not comfortable calling MAGAts victims and blaming someone else for how they vote. They are indeed getting fooled, but let’s be real: it’s a “fool me twice” situation in Trump’s second term.

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          But look at the data. Forvthe most part it is the red states he is hurting the most. They litterally are the victums. Doesn’t stop me from hating them, but I know the blame doesn’t really belong on them. The people who deserve the blame just want us to blame them.