For all their “christianity”, republicans in the US are pretty hypocritical.

Jesus actually teached that everybody deserves to get fed and housed. That everybody deserves healthcare. That people should care for other people in their community. That is essentially the core principles of socialism.

  • Arkouda@lemmy.ca
    1·
    1 day ago

    Even assuming you’re correct, which I very highly doubt as you have provided no source for your claim that contradicts the overwhelming majority of information you can find online, are you going to tell me flies also communicate with their eggs? Does it continue all the way down to amoebas?

    Search “Turtles speak to eggs” if you want to see an overwhelming amount of information that supports the studies done on Turtle communication. Not only do the mothers speak to their babies in the eggs, the baby turtles speak to each other before they hatch.

    No, because we are talking about Turtles and what studies know about Turtles. I am unsure what we know about how flies communicate, or how amoebas communicate beyond chemical reactions, but that has nothing to do with the facts about Turtles.

    Nobody needs third parties to dictate what good is, it’s embedded in our genes.

    Feel free to source your bullshit before asking for a source from someone else.

    • moriquende@lemmy.world
      11·
      24 hours ago

      We’re not talking about turtles but about instincts, that’s why I said “assuming you’re correct” because even if you are, you’re not disproving the existence of instincts, which is pretty much scientific common knowledge. The specific example is not that important for the argument, which you conveniently avoided.

      • Arkouda@lemmy.ca
        1·
        24 hours ago

        We’re not talking about turtles but about instincts, that’s why I said “assuming you’re correct” because even if you are, you’re not disproving the existence of instincts, which is pretty much scientific common knowledge. The specific example is not that important for the argument, which you conveniently avoided.

        I asked you to provide an example of inherent instincts, you said Turtles, I demonstrated why you were wrong.

        The onus is on you to prove your original hypothesis:

        Nobody needs third parties to dictate what good is, it’s embedded in our genes.

        I am not avoiding your argument, I am explicitly telling you it is bullshit. This is bullshit and not backed by anything real.

        Feel free to source something or jog on.

        • moriquende@lemmy.world
          11·
          23 hours ago

          Sigh…

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instinct

          There you go, sources and all. It’s very illuminating.

          My argument is that there is a basic moral code embedded in our genes via instincts. For example the ability to feel compassion and empathy - these are instinctual.

          https://online.uwa.edu/news/empathy-in-animals/ (just an example)

          Now, what exactly is “good” is a philosophical question without an objective answer. But to assume our entire behavior and everything makes a person “good” is learned is pretty disingenuous, at least under the definitions of good I’ve most commonly come across.

          • Arkouda@lemmy.ca
            1·
            22 hours ago

            My argument is that there is a basic moral code embedded in our genes via instincts. For example the ability to feel compassion and empathy - these are instinctual.

            A wiki does not an argument make, and your argument fails to explain why compassion and empathy are not universal in our species and a learned behavior.

            • moriquende@lemmy.world
              1·
              14 hours ago

              You’re not arguing in good faith - the wiki was the source for the existence of instincts you asked for. Also, Wikipedia is a very good resource actually, what difference would it make to you if I just copied the sources referenced in the article?

              I didn’t get your second part.