The Israeli rescue service Zaka says its paramedics removed more than 260 bodies from a music festival that came under attack by Hamas militants.

The total figure of bodies found is expected to be higher, as other paramedic teams were also working in the area and Zaka added that the bodies “haven’t all been collected yet”.

Early on Saturday morning, Hamas targeted Nova music festival, a techno rave in the desert near the border with Gaza.

Videos shared on social media and by Israeli news outlets showed dozens of festival-goers running through an open field as gunshots rang out. Many hid in nearby fruit orchards or were gunned down as they fled.

  • Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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    1 year ago

    I just think people talking about killing civilians at a music festival being an atrocity (it is!) were probably really quiet about the regular civilian casualties caused by Israel year after year. In 12 years, the UN counted 5,590 deaths. That’s not 5,590 dead terrorists, but people are acting like the atrocities just started now. I’m very much willing to say “what about”, not because it should make people think this one isn’t horrible, but because they really should answer “what about the other ones you ignored”.

    And one doesn’t even need to go backward. Israel’s already racking up civilian casualties, and you can bet there’s going to be some people who want to keep going until the Palestinian number is much higher than the Israeli number.

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      1 year ago

      Israel has never targeted civilians. Palestinians have always targeted civilians.

      Hamas uses civilians as meat shields.

      When people like you take INTENT out of the equation, your just doing Hamas’s bidding.

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        They literally shot a journalist in the head and then sent military thugs to rough up people at the funeral. Your perspective is severely lacking context on one side.

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          1 year ago

          According to who?

          You have to take these stories with a grain of salt.

          Do you remember the Jenin massacre?

          Do you remember all the awful things that the Israelis did? It was horrific.

          … Except …

          It never happened. The Palestinians lied about it.

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            1 year ago

            You know you can look this up so you don’t come across as an ignorant partisan right?

            Her name was Shireen Abu Akleh

            From the article:

            “Several independent investigations carried out by various bodies and organisations, including the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, concluded that Abu Akleh was most likely killed by seemingly well-targeted shots fired by Israeli forces, despite her wearing clear identification as a journalist. Internal investigations carried out by the Israeli Defence Force (IDF) found “a high possibility” that Abu Akleh was “accidentally hit” by IDF gunfire. However, to date, Israeli authorities have not opened a criminal investigation into her death or held anyone accountable.”

            So are you willing to amend your previous claim? Or do you just want to cast doubt on anything that shows the Israeli government in a bad light?

            Edit: I almost forgot, here’s proof that Israeli military went to the funeral to beat pallbearers and others: https://apnews.com/article/shireen-abu-akleh-journalist-funeral-west-bank-bb71e2ec64dd034066bc6df4a9aa2fb3

            And you know what, have some more quotes from the original article:

            “The experts also decried the record-high number of killings of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem in recent months in the context of raids by Israeli forces, often targeting refugee camps. In 2022, out of 9000 Israeli operations, 702 targeted refugee camps in the occupied West Bank. In 2023, already more than 100 Palestinians have been killed in the context of such operations, including in Jenin, Nablus and Jericho. Since 2001, at least 18 Palestinian journalists have been reportedly killed by the IDF in the occupied Palestinian territory and no one has been held accountable for those deaths.”

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              Again, the sources are suspect. The UN has been widely, absurdly anti-Israel to an absolutely comical extent.

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                “anything that says something I don’t support is suspect” get your head out of your ass.

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                  Sorry, but the UN’s anti-Israel bias is extremely well documented. They’ve earned my skepticism and yours.

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                    Lmao, to say Israel doesn’t target civilians is retarded. They literally shut off water and power to 2 million civilians, that’s a war crime.

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                Do you think that’s because every other nation has it out for israel? Or because Israel has been doing war crimes for decades?