• DdCno1@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    Serious question: Is this your first war? Wars usually don’t have safe zones at all. Even a terrible safe zone is still better than nothing.

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      8 months ago

      Serious question, you think this is a fucking war? You think both sides have equatable forces and that Israel is in significant danger of retaliation? They’ve killed more hostages themselves than Hamas has. This is an extermination by a country with zero moral boundaries.

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        8 months ago

        Hamas physically could not fight a war against Israel given

        1. Israel has an incredibly powerful and sophisticated military
        2. Israel has the complete military backing of the US which is overwhelmingly powerful
        3. Israel controls everything about Gaza including entrance and exit, water, electricity and internet access
        4. Hamas has no significant number of anti-air assets, antitank assets or anything required to resist a modern armored ground offensive backed by air superiority

        If any one of those four were true, it would be impossible for Hamas to fight a “war”, the fact that all four are true makes it abundantly clear any sense of a “war between two militaries” is a complete warping of reality. Israel does not want to conquer Gaza, it wants erase the human beings living there, this is much scarier than a war. MUCH scarier.

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        8 months ago

        There are very rarely wars between similar sides. This war is not unusual for that at all. In fact, after WW2, most conflicts have been asymmetric. You are also omitting that Hamas have launched thousands of rockets against Israel since October 7, have tried countless times to breach border defenses and repeat the October 7 massacres. Do not belittle the threat that Hamas poses despite being nowhere near as powerful as the IDF. Hamas have no chance of winning a war, but they can inflict a great deal of damage.

        They’ve killed more hostages themselves than Hamas has.

        According to whom? It’s Hamas who reports how hostages have died and more than once, hostages that according to Hamas died due to bombing were in fact executed: “Forensic officials have said that autopsies of slain hostages who had been recovered found causes of death inconsistent with Hamas’ account they had died in air strikes.”

        https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/china-calls-gaza-peace-conference-hamas-disclose-fate-israeli-hostages-2024-01-15/

        This is an extermination by a country with zero moral boundaries.

        What do you actually know about Israel? Zero moral boundaries? What kind of farce of a fantasy have you created of this nation?