• jimerson@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I hate to say anything in defense of Starbucks (as a small Coffee House owner), but non-dairy costs more in general. It’s not like they are upcharging because they want to stick it to the lactose intolerant.

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      8 months ago

      The idea that it costs more to put oats in a blender with an enzyme is more expensive to produce than breeding and feeding cows is pretty laughable. Non-dairy is only more expensive because of gigantic subsidies that simply don’t need to exist in the modern era.

      Edit: the number of you simping for a gigantic corporation is surprising. Oat water is cheap to make. Milk is not. You buy milk at the grocery store nearly at cost. You buy oat milk in branded containers in the yuppy-vegan-white-women priced section at gouging prices. Starbucks does not have costs like the grocery store lists their prices.

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        Re your edit, no one is simping for Starbucks, just common sense. You don’t have to have milk with your coffee. For fuck sake, you don’t even have to have a coffee.

        Want something unusual in your coffee? Pay for it.

        Not happy, about how much they are charging for it. Make your fucking coffee at home before leaving the house and put whatever you want in there.

        We are not talking insulin prices here, let’s get real.

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            8 months ago

            Sure, and that why when you walk into a shop and ask for milk, everyone asks you “what kind of milk would you like”?

            baby cow growth formula.

            LOL, way to be taken seriously

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              Well, it is serious. Cow’s milk is a formula that’s adapted for the purpose of taking a small calf, and transforming them into a huge cow as rapidly as possible. Is it any surprize that we have obesity, diabetes, and heart disease epidemics?

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                You think milk is the cause why you have obesity, diabetes and hearth disease?

                Look vegetarians and vegans have a couple of good points that can be used to get more people interested. Keep going calling milk whatever you called it, referring to ‘murdered animals’ and making up shit to explain obesity and no wonder you can’t even convince your mum to take you seriously.

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                  I love this, “If vegans weren’t [x], we would…” … what? Take us seriously, what do you mean by that? Are you implying that if only I would say the approved things, you would actually go vegan?! Is vegan discourse a Shin Megami Tensei dialogue tree game, where making the arbitrarily chosen, pre-approved word choices is the key to success?

                  And I suppose all those people who were saying, “all lives matter”, were right when they said they ‘no longer’ support movements like BLM because a few riots happened?

                  Be real, you just want vegans to shut up and keep our heads down, so you don’t have to have your animal abuse challenged.

                  Anyway it’s not about what I think. The facts are that many things contribute to the rise of obesity and other western lifestyle diseases, including a sedentary lifestyle, poor diet (involving many factors), and possibly even things related to pollution. There is more than enough data to show, however, that the primary factor is animal consumption - including dairy. The Adventist health studies show this clearly, as well as many others.

                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2671114/

                  https://www.pcrm.org/good-nutrition/nutrition-information/health-concerns-about-dairy

  • Boozilla@lemmy.world
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    I despise Starbucks, but I’m not sure this lawsuit makes any sense. Those non-cow milks costs them more. Of course, the law often doesn’t make sense, anyway.

    As another commenter said, they could just overcharge for cow milk and make the prices all the same. Then nobody is happy, but it meets the legal requirement (as I understand it).

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      8 months ago

      Those non-cow milks costs them more.

      so? it’s starbucks. they’ll be fine.

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    The plaintiffs say in the lawsuit that lactose intolerance is a disability listed under the Americans with Disabilities Act, and the surcharges violate that act.

    Is it though? I mean don’t get me wrong, it sucks that people who are lactose intolerant have to pay more, but is it really a disability?

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      8 months ago

      If it does, then the cost difference to the business should probably be subsidized / written off in taxes.

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    8 months ago

    Could someone with lactose intolerance not merely omit the milk?