• zeus ⁧ ⁧ ∽↯∼@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    who even decides what’s “modern” anymore?

    can anyone, honestly, without reading the article (or guessing from the headline), tell me which of these is the "modern" design?

    screenshot of the nautilus file manager in light mode screenshot of the nautilus file manager in light mode

    edit: people are getting confused by the fact that one is tree view, not icons view so i changed the image. old image here

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      1 year ago

      It’s just my opinion (since it’s not in the article) but a thing that makes Gnome and Libadwaita a “modern design” is the fact that the production behind it tries to bridge the gap between a “mouse and keyboard” and a “touch screen” workflow.
      None of the other DEs come even close to Gnome when used on a tablet

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        1 year ago

        meh, subjectively i find that creates a “worst of both worlds” situation. but this comment was more about the futility of the development time that went into this specific feature

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          1 year ago

          this comment was more about the futility of the development time that went into this specific feature

          yeah sorry, I should have been more specific with my answer: features like this are supposed to help you in a touch screen situation or in general with smaller screens.
          When the window is resized under a certain size, the left panel becomes hidden and with it part of the top bar, to make it less cluttered and confusing.

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            1 year ago

            but …surely you could just do the same thing with the old design? artist’s rendition:

            in fact, now i look at it, it makes them look even more similar once i collapse the sidebar

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      1 year ago

      Honestly, I haven’t yet seen the article, the light theme one is probably newer because of tabs.

      Anyways both look like an android app, I know most will hate reading this but Windows Explorer rules.

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        1 year ago

        nah, i agree with you. win explorer with qttabbar, tortoisegit, and some tweaks from winaerotweaker

        dolphin is pretty good though and it has some features that explorer doesn’t, like a terminal pane

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      1 year ago

      Clearly the dark mode is the modern one! Jokes aside, I just realized that there THREE menu options on that toolbar: hamburger, kebab, and waffle! I realize they do different things, but no wonder people are confused by and scared of computers. Also, now I’m hungry!

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        1 year ago

        as someone who’s not scared of computers, i have no idea what they do. i assume the right one is icons/list/compact[1] not a waffle menu, but the hamburger and kebab? i have no clue


        1. though why it’s showing list when the current view is icons, i don’t know either ↩︎

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            1 year ago

            maybe; but if the location of menu buttons hints at their use then the hamburger should collapse the side drawer like the one on e.g. youtube, but i doubt it does

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      1 year ago

      It’d be kinda nice if they made these kinds of changes options rather than just deciding this is best

      Could honestly take it or leave it, doesn’t really add anything

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        i’m not even sure it’s worth having an option. i don’t think i’d even have noticed a difference, apart from the menu button being in a slightly different place to every other gnome app. it’s fine; but it wasn’t worth the development time

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          The last thing I want is an option for this. My gosh, imagine the amount of options you would end up with if every single design choice was turned into an option. Who in the world would like that many options.

          I’m happy to just have a design team work on whatever they think looks better and works best for the user experience, and implement it after some rounds of public review and testing. This looks neat enough to me - slightly less cluttered than what my current Nautilus window looks like while maintaining the same functionality.

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            Who in the world would like that many options.

            KDE fans?

            Awww, Plasma fans, you know I’m playin’.

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                Seriously, I envy you guys. Every time I try to use Plasma, I end up spending all my time tweaking the desktop, and by the time I’m done, I realize I’ve just recreated the Gnome workflow…

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                  1 year ago

                  every time i try to use gnome, i end up spending all my time going “dammit, where are all the bleeding features

                  (also the lack of fitts’ law adherence due to that pointless bar at the top)

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                    1 year ago

                    I had to look up Fitts’s law, and I’m not sure I get it. Could you explain what you mean?

                    ETA: I kinda feel like mine was about KDE not being a fit for me personally, and yours was a slam on Gnome rather than a statement of personal preference.