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    It’s amazing how, even ten years ago, even one of the things Trump did would have killed another candidate’s political career, if not toppled an entire government.

    I thought that shit Bush II’s people got a pass on was bad, but this is next-level banana Republic, Silvio Berlusconi “Hey, I thought she was 18” level stuff.

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      Bush mostly operated under plausible deniability (we totally thought they had WMDs guys!)

      Trump operates off of his cult of personality, so being subtle about his lies isn’t really in his playbook. He does better when he bullies his followers into rejecting the truth outright.

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        Also Bush’s people still stick to the lie. Heard Condoleezza Rice do something a while back and and she still says they had WMDs. They’ve committed to the lie. Trump just admits shit. I mean he’s straight I’ve already said he was guilty in this. He doesn’t even have to bother.

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          Condoleezza “Oil Tanker” Rice still desires a respect she’ll never, ever get. She is bound by her contract with the devil to maintain the lie until she passes hereafter to her own hell loop.

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        Bush mostly operated under plausible deniability (we totally thought they had WMDs guys!)

        Only if one was a complete idiot. We all knew there were none, the IAEA said there were none, even Colin Powell’s pitiful lie was bullshit on the face of it, not to mention the SOTU’s Reel Srs FacE pulled when he said “yellowcake uranium . . . . from Africa” was all horrifyingly bad lying.

        They even gave it up themselves a couple of years later when Il Dubz looked under his chair at the WHPCD and said “those WMD’s have to be somewhere! Hyuk hyuk”

        Never plausible. Never. Just theatre. All for Fox news and the talk radio masses to snort up and get ready to kill for.

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          On a related note, this is the main reason I can’t buy into any 9/11 was a government inside job. They couldn’t even fake finding WMDs in Iraq to justify the whole thing.

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          I guess what I’m saying is that Bush’s claims could conceivably exist in a slightly different world, especially to those in a conservative media bubble.

          Trump’s lies are so boldfaced that even his statements within the echo chamber of conservative news strain reality.

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      Kinda like the time Howard Dean went “BYAAAH” and it ruined his political career. It feels like we’ve been living in a bizarro world.

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        That one was even manufactured. If you were in the room it didnt’ sound like that. By taking the microphone’s line out only and stripping the crowd noise out it sounded weird. All the news orgs knew it at the time and ran it anyway. Just for funsies. And we got Bush II II.