"If someone is speaking more about 'violent encampments' than they are about violent genocide of the Palestinians, they have a problem reflective of deep and dangerous biases," said one supporter.
sorry but that’s not a fair analysis of the data put forward by ACLED here. they are counting demonstrations not demonstrators. and they are most certainly not couning charges so no clue where you got that.
here are some similar, though admittedly not directly parallel, statistics (published jan 2022):
6.8% of pro-Trump demonstrations (112 of 1,646) between January 2020 and November 2021 were armed compared to 1.5% of all other demonstrations (501 of 33,298).
The percentage of armed pro-Trump demonstrations increased last year. In 2021, 8.8% of pro-Trump demonstrations were armed (32 of 364) compared to 6.2% in 2020 (80 of 1,282).
Doesn’t matter. There was violence at Jan 6, ergo Jan 6 was 100% violent. Compare that to nearly 0% violence for the students. Why do you think 100% and 0% are close?
Thousands of videos exist of that too. We don’t have to guess what happened, we know how many of them were not peaceful. We also know what their goals were and how close they got to achieving them.
Just like all the video analysis and the physical evidence at these scenes tell us how peaceful they indeed were.
Speaking of video footage, have you recently rewatched footage of the jan 6 riots, even stuff they released themselves that they thought was showing themselves in a positive light at the time…
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You actually couldn’t, since it wasn’t peaceful and it wasn’t counter-protestors causing the violence and destruction.
The police literally caused more damage to people and the property at Columbia University while removing the students than the students ever did.
Could you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iludfj6Pe7w
One thousand people where charged out of twenty-five thousand, that’s only 4% of the people.
That means 96% were being peaceful and that’s damn near 100%
Sorry… you think that the only people who were violent were the ones who got charged?
That’s weird, because that’s not how it usually works.
I’m just using verifiable numbers here.
And trying to conflate a percentage of protests with a percentage of people at one particular protest. The two are not comparable.
This article say there was north of 100,000 people there which makes the number ultimately charged under one percent.
A percentage is a ratio of two numbers, in this case you are trying to compare
^People who engaged in violence and were convicted at one protest^/~People who were at that protest~
with
^Number of protest events that became violent^/~Number of protest events for this cause~
To compare that you will have to wait a few years for all of the court cases to wind down. Hope that helps.
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sorry but that’s not a fair analysis of the data put forward by ACLED here. they are counting demonstrations not demonstrators. and they are most certainly not couning charges so no clue where you got that.
here are some similar, though admittedly not directly parallel, statistics (published jan 2022):
What percent of the armed Trump supporters were violent?
Doesn’t matter. There was violence at Jan 6, ergo Jan 6 was 100% violent. Compare that to nearly 0% violence for the students. Why do you think 100% and 0% are close?
I’d say BLM was near 0% violence but you’re say it was 100%.
What? How “I’m say” it was 100%? What are you talking about?
You’re saying.
Are you coming at me for a small typo?
i don’t have that data i’m sorry
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That’s a little homophobic, no?
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There was one of those and multiple people died.
Thousands of videos exist of that too. We don’t have to guess what happened, we know how many of them were not peaceful. We also know what their goals were and how close they got to achieving them.
Just like all the video analysis and the physical evidence at these scenes tell us how peaceful they indeed were.
Speaking of video footage, have you recently rewatched footage of the jan 6 riots, even stuff they released themselves that they thought was showing themselves in a positive light at the time…
Of the violent protests, how many protestors at those specific protests do you imagine would be considered “violent” by the same metric?
I don’t have those numbers, I’m just trying to show this argument goes both ways.