• masquenox@lemmy.ml
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    The US has been waging unprovoked war on Latin America since before WW1.

    The only thing new about this is that this irredeemable piece of garbage is stating the quiet part out loud.

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    How about a new rule that if you vote for a war, you are automatically enlisted. And if you’re ineligible to enlist you must either abstain or vote no.

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    I hate DeSantis as much as the next guy but cmon, this title is misleading. He said he would “drone strikes cartels,” not that he wanted to go to war.

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        I’d say YOU guys (Hexbears and Lemmygradians) are bots. In fact, I’m probably talking to one right now.

        The pronoun tags give it away. They’re completely random. My inbox as follows:

        “none/use name” - “she/her” - “ze/hir” - “they/them” - “any” - “comrade/them” - “comrade/them” - “he/him”

        Jfc did Russian propagandists just put the pronouns for these bots…on shuffle? I’m not saying all of you guys are bots but it seems like the majority. Lol I wonder if there’s a script I can use to shut you down.

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            Nope, it would make sense if the pronoun tags were 90% he/him and she/her, but the extent of variation among the tags user choose is completely unrealistic and arbitrary that any community would have.

            Any tankie space would obviously be like 98% he/him neckbeards only.

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                Liberal and Soc-Dem spaces are mostly white male neckbeards

                No they aren’t tf. Maybe on reddit but that’s 90% of reddit.

                • No, that is true, even if it is less directly disqualifying of the specific political tendencies, and the closing of practical horizons of American politics meant that there is a vast demobilization of political action. So, mostly because voting and engagement with mainstream politics is highly correlated with several axes of privilege, white people vote more than non-white, wealthy vote more than poor, etc. So, most mainstream politics and all electoral positions over-represents white middle-to-upper class. There is less of a gender gap on the face of it for parties than one would think because there are a lot of white and women from conservative areas that vote Republican. But there is also a boomerang effect of people that are privileged enough to not suffer ill effects of failure of sabotaged progressive movements such as the Black Panthers and Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition are more likely to vote to the left of the Democratic Party. Because you could get some minor pork-barrel spending if you support the establishment over progressive candidate that will just be crushed by the machine or fizzle out due to internal fractures and more minor sabotage.

                  So, yes they are. Maybe that is 90% of electoral politics, but it is true that Soc-Dems are disproportionately white men. Though that is more of mainstream politics over-representing privilege on many axes. And also if it is divorced from daily struggle and immediate issues (as mainstream politics works to alienate us from), then politics becomes horse-race stuff for nerds.

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          The pronoun tags give it away. They’re completely random.

          Nice transphobia you got there. How are cis people that fucking ignorant of nonbinary people existing?

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                ШHДT DФ ЧФЦ MЭДИ, CФMЯДDЭ? ЭVЭЯЧ ЯЦSSIДИ CITIZЭИ GЭTS HЭXБЭДЯ․ИЭT ДИD LЭMMЧGЯДD․ML ДCCФЦИTS ДT БIЯTH SФ ШЭ CДИ PДЯTICIPДTЭ IИ KЯЭMLIИ TЯФLL FДЯMS TФ SPЯЭДD ФЦЯ PЯФPДGДИDД ФИ LЭMMЧ!

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            Still, misleading title, he’s not proposing a war. Could it potentially lead to war? Yeah but it’s very, very unlikely Mexico would actually declare war on America.

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              The United States is not an arbiter of which Mexicans are to be extrajudicially executed by drone strikes. You’re acting like a coward who’s only too happy the Mexicans are too weak to strike back.

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              What the fuck do you think putting your military into another country uninvited is? What the fuck are you doing quibbling over “potentially” a war or not? What you’re essentially saying here is that you’re ok with it as long if Mexico cowers and doesn’t fight back.

              This is a disgusting level of nationalism. You’re already making excuses for america.

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                Typical hexbears to shove words down throats.

                I never said I wasn’t against this, I’m merely saying the title should’ve been something like, “Ron DeSantis proposes uninvited drone strikes on Mexican cartel”

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      Yeah right, and when Trump talked about the “bad hombres” coming over the border and bringing crime with them he was totally just talking about the bad Mexicans. This totally isn’t just another American candidate for the presidency stoking racial hatred to garner votes from people who believe these things.

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      The people who support him don’t know he said this… They literally don’t know shit about these people and only watch Fox news which wont air this

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      Posing as a human rights lawyer and illegally aiding in the torture of POWs at Guantanamo is the best way of forming a valid opinion on Iraq!