• SeaJ@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Am Democrat. Do not want bans.

    I’m fine with permits after training, safe storage laws, registration, and universal background checks. We also need to do a hell of a lot better in tracking down the source of illegal guns once they are obtained. If it was registered and never reported stolen, they need to question the registered owner.

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      7 months ago

      Did you know it’s already a felony to not report a stolen gun? If they track it down that far they’d be more than “questioned.”

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          7 months ago

          In most states, not just CA. And even most without a “duty to report” lets call it, can and will punish you if an unreported gun is used in a crime. Besides, not reporting a criminal stole your gun a good way to get falsely imprisoned for murder which usually people don’t want to do, so even without laws requiring one to do so or not specifically enumerating punishment for not reporting if it is used in a crime, it is still seen as a generally good idea to prevent said false convictions.

          I didn’t downvote you, can’t answer for them.

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              7 months ago

              You’d have to look into state laws and previous cases where a gun purchase being tied to some murder got someone convicted. I’m not going to hunt it down to prove it to you but you’re free to spend your time doing so.

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                I mean a source for most states saying there is a duty to report a stolen firearm and that there is halting for failure to report it. I was able to find a list of states where it is indeed illegal but that is only 11.

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                  7 months ago

                  What I’m saying is “No I do not have an article that lays out state laws succinctly, you’d have to search the actual .gov pages for the laws themselves, and as I am not your paralegal and not getting paid for my work I am declining to do it.”

                  Or you could just do some thinkin’ and realize “Yeah if a gun that I did a NICs check on that got stolen shows up in a murder and I don’t have an alibi, I might be a suspect in said murder” isn’t actually that wild of a situation. If you can’t see how it could be likely though, like I said, you’re free to search yourself.

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                    7 months ago

                    Don’t make a claim if you aren’t willing to back it up with a source.

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                    7 months ago

                    So basically you made a claim that you cannot back up. It’s not my job to research claims you make.

                    Your scenario makes me think you watch waaaay too many cop shows. The probability that a gun is used in a murder is pretty low. The probability that police look into where the gun actually came from is extremely low. Otherwise straw purchasing would not be a thing which it very much is.

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      7 months ago

      I’m fine with permits after training

      Does it include half of Russia? Because if you have wrong chromosome, you will be trained with weapons even if you actively avoid it.

      they need to question the registered owner.

      Also what to do if owner is too dead for this?