• the post of tom joad@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    It’s funny right? This should be the strongest green party showing ever and it’s strangely quiet politically. Dems emptying the pistol into their toes, Repubs frothing at the mouth, ya think more folks would say “fuck it let’s try a third way”. But the 2 party backers are more loudly than ever proclaiming how important it is to stay a 2 party system, and we are generally eating the bait.

    Ill take my downvotes cuz im voting stein. I don’t like her that much frankly but i don’t actively despise her so i guess that’s who ill "throw away"my vote for.

    Lol i don’t care enough for her to even say stein '24. No pins, no bumper stickers for this cat.

    But i figger its the only way ill be able to sleep at night

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      Because with the way we do our voting (first past the post), a vote for Stein is effectively a vote for Donald J Trump, Convicted Felon, adulterer, fraudster, sexual assaulter, etc, etc.

      This election is NOT the election to get “principled” with your choice. The consequence of Trump getting another term is incredibly dire for the health of our country and democracy. The consequence of Biden winning is a shift back in the right direction. Jill Stein and other candidates will still be around in 4 years and you can vote for them then-- and she’ll lose then, but maybe, with another 4 years of Biden, we’ll have laws protecting womens choice, supreme court nominees that aren’t conservative lunatics, and forward thinking stability. So you vote 4 years from now we’ll be on more solid ground in the event you cause a Republican to win.

      If you vote for her now, and Trump wins as a consequence, you might not ever get a chance to vote again. (only being a little dramatic).

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        I’ve heard this before my friend. Respectfully, i disagree with the premise. I have an opinion I’m not asking you to share, but it is this: if im forced to vote for someone, then I’ve already lost the right to vote. So I’m going to exercise my right while I’ve got it, doing what i believe in. I hope things turn out better than both of us suspect they will

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          then I’ve already lost the right to vote

          You have accurately described the situation.

          You do not have full freedom to choose any candidate you like. You can only choose Trump or Biden. A vote for anyone else will not have any effect. You’re free to vote for nobody, or not vote, but anybody who survived the first Trump presidency and isn’t willing to vote against him is either a racist or a moron.

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            [anyone who]isn’t willing to vote against him is either a racist or a moron.

            The kind of person who reduces disagreements to simple black and white terms along with denigrating their opposition as “stupid or racist” isnt the kind of person who should imagine themselves smarter (as those two choices shut down thought) but they often are. These “loudest” people believe calling others dumb protects them from looking foolish themselves, somehow.

            They are mistaken

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            I know. I just can’t take it some times. I swear they must be bots. I really should just ignore/block them instead of losing it like that. C’est la vie.

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              Well i appreciate the backup anyway. It’s a lonely slog talking truth in election season. Hard to keep sanity what with all the propheads parroting, as you say. So what I’m saying is it was nice to see, even if you’re not happy with the content of your comment.