China has said it will “never compromise” on the issue of Taiwan, in its first military talks with the US since 2021.

It urged the US to “stop arming Taiwan” and take its concerns “seriously”.

This comes just days ahead of pivotal elections in Taiwan, which could push the island further towards - or away - from Beijing.

China claims Taiwan as part of its own territory, but the island sees itself as distinct from the Chinese mainland.

  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I think they are taking China’s concerns seriously. That’s why they are arming Taiwan.

    I’m tired of this idea that the people of a region shouldn’t have the choice of whether or not they are a part of a country. This applies to Taiwan, Ukraine, Chechnya, Palestine, Catalan, Tibet, or anyone else that wants to break off from a country people other than them decided they were a part of.

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      10 months ago

      Does this apply to Donetsk and Luhansk as well?

      Want to make sure you are internally consistent here.

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        10 months ago

        If you use sham referendums and Kremlin news sources as your basis for reality, why not move there? I’m sure Putin would welcome you with open arms!

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          10 months ago

          If you use sham referendums and Kremlin news sources

          I mean, shame elections were what split the country back in 2014 and caused the intra-state violence that eventually turned into an inter-state war. Eastern Ukraine has been dominated by Russian ethnic nationals and Russia-aligned businesses since the fall of the Soviet Union. The West is where all the Euro-loving Indies and Banderites live.

          You hardly needed a referendum to know Donetsk would side with the Russians. That’s like asking how folks in Alabama feel about the Confederacy. Hell, Crimea was effectively a bloodless conquest in no small part because the Crimeans were totally opposed to the sitting Ukrainian government.

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        10 months ago

        That’s not gonna go the way they think it will, and I doubt there’s enough public support for it to ever happen.

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          10 months ago

          Honestly, I think the closest parallel to Taiwan in the 2020s is Cuba in, say, 1980s.

          Their biggest sponsor is retreating from the world globally and can no longer really afford to support a full military detachment there indefinitely, especially after fucking up in Afghanistan for the last decade. There’s a ton of economic reasons to just drop this bullshit and be normal, but they’re too prideful to let the issue go. All their neighbors are increasingly hostile to the jilted-ex attitude their neighbor is displaying, but when you’ve got nukes who is really going to argue with you?

          So the US perpetuates a blockade of the island for the next 40 years out of spite, hoping that one day the Cuban government will just kinda collapse and let the Americans back in.

          And the Chinese will continue to economically love-bomb Taiwan, while picking fights with the US by running military drills around the island’s edges, hoping against hope that they’ll eventually get a better reception in Taipei than they did in Hong Kong.

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    10 months ago

    When US support a genocide in the middle east under the statement “Isreal have the right to defend itself by attacking others” It is amazing that China still haven’t rolled in with their military in Taiwan.

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      10 months ago

      They’re waiting to see if Trump is in office. He can be bought for fairly cheap.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah, but bought by whom? Modi’s India and Meloni’s Italy and Yoon Suk Yeol’s Korea all want a slice. Hell, the US is overflowing with NatSec types who are eager for a loss cannon like Trump to take office.

        I don’t think Trump siding with China is in any way inevitable. He could just as easily be baited into starting a shooting war purely thanks to some Beautiful Generals massaging his ego.

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      10 months ago

      I mean, imagine if a Chinese military force decided to occupy Hawaii for 60 years, after a bunch of Jan 6thers fled there and declared it independent by way of some Sovereign Citizen gibberish. Do you think there’s anyone in Washington who would be running on the “No big deal, let them have it” platform?