For third party voters in the US: What do you think is the effective difference between voting for a third party and throwing your ballot directly into a garbage bin?

That’s a bad omen for TEVI

Even if you are into DIY: Buy cheaper once, if something breaks buy something more expensive.

I am not even American and I guess I’m discussing on a rather ethical way and too far from the reality America is facing right now.

My only point was that if you’d allow abortions without any restrictions and simply define an abortion as a termination of pregnancy you’d also allow this.

I’d still rather vote for this than the abolition of abortion, just to be clear, but this would also be choosing one minor bad thing over the other.

Nope not American. I heard about the most important points, but did not go in too deeply.

I think with the detailed background I get the point of no restrictions. But it still rather feels like working on the symptoms and not the cause.

So how do you define an abortion if not as a termination of pregnancy? The reasons you gave in my eyes are rather reasons to reform the American police system. How would police even know of a miscarriage or an abortion? Most countries have duty of confidentiality for medical staff?

Also there is still a difference between restriction and prosecution and restrictions can be more or less restrictive. If there are medical complications an abortion shall always be allowed and if not in my opinion only up to a certain point into the pregnancy. Starting at somewhere around 23 weeks a fetus is able to survive outside of the womb, so besides medical reasons I’d set a cut somewhere there.

If you pay enough you find one and if it is not restricted in any way it is also legal. I’m not against abortions, but I think there need to be at least some regulations.

It’s what the guy was demanding: abortions with no restrictions.

What you are not thinking of is that there are psychologically instable people who are not able to make a conscious decision for themselves for a certain time or who just follow through with impulsive decisions. Also there are people being forced to do things by others.

Having medical reasons for a late abortion is one thing (while still being allowed to have aan abortion withourt any reasons up to a certain point of time), being allowed to abort whenever you want without any restrictions just something totally different.

An abortion is the termination of a pregnancy. The guy I’m answering to is demanding either abortion with no restrictions or no abortion at all. So it is first of all not about what is happening, but about what would be allowed to happen. Abortion with no restrictions would make this generally legal.

As much as I’m pro abortion: no restrictions is bullshit too. Wouldn’t allow aborting in the 9th month if not the life of the mother is at stake.

Fighting through it at the moment, it just feels like I don’t even get half of what is written.