I googled this to find the drama and the first link is to their fucking cth community lol
you don’t get to be edgelord shitposters and then complain when people don’t let you come over to kick their sandcastles down anymore
What’s the issue with their cth community?
Instances can defederate whenever they want, but skimming the sidebar and announcements, it’s weirder to me that lemmy.world is still federated with lemmygrad, which seems to be very similar to hexbear.
Anyone have any insight into the difference between lemmygrad and hexbear?
Lemmygrad is marxist leninist
Hexbear is leftist unity, larger, and more shitpostery. Also hexbear has more trans users because of even better moderation and pronoun tags being the default.
I’m out of the loop: What’s the deal with Hexbear?
They are authoritarian Russian/Chinese stans, pretending to be leftists.
No one stans Russia in hexbear, we literally say “the collapse of the Soviet Union was the largest humanitarian disaster of the latter half of the 20th century”
Why are all the instances defederating each other?
Are there others defederating lately?
Idk, I thought I heard of a few doing so. Like defederating mastodon, that corpo Facebook one, ++. Though no specifics, just stuff I thought I heard; may be misremembering
The Facebook one (Threads?) was defederated because of the real risk of Embrace Extend Extinguish:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
I disagree with lemmy.world’s decision, for three reasons:
- Address problems as they appear - negligence is bad, but so is jumping at the gun.
- Locking users out because they’re misbehaving is different than locking them out under the assumption that they’ll misbehave.
- Given that lemmy.world is a generic purpose instance, odds are that it would work better by letting users sort themselves out, and only intervene on problems when it is not reasonable to expect users to do so.
I also think that lemmy.world’s current size in comparison with other instances is a bit problematic. It’s great to see instances growing but it would be better if said growth was spread out.
Just my two cents, mind you. I’m from neither instance.
There’s a naked man outside a store, whippin’ his dong around & throwing poo at passersby…
Do you have to let him the store just because he hasn’t actually done any of that stuff inside yet?
Or can you preemptively decide he won’t be allowed inside?
FWIW, I agree with everything you’ve said, just looking for clarification.
I think the analogy would be more accurate if he was whipping his dong out and throwing shit within his own home. And he can do what he wants there, because it’s not affecting anyone else. Sure, the people in his house can have whatever opinions they want of him, but if he’s cleaned up and dressed before he leaves his house, who cares?
You want to defederate from the largest Lemmy instance, the poster child, and the mascot of Lemmy? Good luck. They are Lemmy now.
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The way .world has dominated is problematic for federation, honestly.
I agree, but it’s too late now. Even Sync defaults to the .world instance, and at this rate, they’ll only grow bigger.
Yeah it won’t happen on its own, there would need to be a concentrated effort to oppose .world domination at this point.
It won’t be a problem until .world starts demanding mutual defederation (i.e. instances federated with .world have to pledge to defederate from instances .world deems problematic)
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