Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful. — Seneca
We can’t know. And that’s fine.
Whatever started the physical process that created us is pretty fucking crazy. I bet it’s a simulation.
So many people in this thread were traumatized from church lol. God isn’t inherently a bad or stupid idea… just depends on how you define God.
I believe in me. You are all being perceived by me. And anything I cannot perceive is not in the realm of existence.
I don’t see any evidence for evolution creating new species. None
If there is a god, it takes a special sadist to allow the amount of torment present on earth.
So I prefer to believe there’s no higher spirit ravelling in the suffering of all creatures rather than there being a malevolent creator watching with glee as we die a slow, painful death.
basically believing in god is akin to believing that this is all just a game of sims some twisted being is playing
No, but I don’t want to rule it out completely. I there is, it’s probably nothing like anyone has every thought about. There’s a lot about the universe we don’t know. I think it’s a bit foolish to claim for certain things when we know so little about the universe. One day, it might be possible to measure the soul with scientific equipment, and future people may look back on us and think, “Wow, they actually believed they were only organic, not even realizing they have a quantum soul,” the same way we look back at people who thought the earth was the center of the universe.
The world is a complicated place, and what we say now may look foolish or ahead of its time 100 years from now.
Agreed, well said. This train of thought is why I’ve never been able to identify as an atheist.
Yes
No, but I wish God was real.
Humans are not evolved enough past our selfishness. If we all lived believing that our actions are being judged by a benevolent father figure, we’d have less people screwing each other over.
But please, don’t make it the jealous, plague invoking version that needs a constant stream of souls sacrificed, from the old testament.
I guess that’s inevitable. If you think that there is a maker, then you’d have to also explain things like natural disasters. Which leads to thinking that God is mad at us.
This is not considering the corruption of the people in charge.
Most of humanity legitmatly believed in some kind of god for most of history. It didn’t stop people from screwing each other over.
True.
No. There hasn’t been any evidence to convince me of the existence of such an entity.
Nope. Can’t understand the reasoning behind “some dude has always existed, you can’t see him though or touch him or anything, but he created everything! Also only we few know about this and only recently! All the other beliefs are wrong.” Where would a giant fairy come from? No idea.
Spent a good while searching for evidence as a doubting kid. Didn’t find anything. I realized the absurdity later on of believing in ghosts and psychics and magic when one of the defining qualities is how they can’t be recorded or even reproduced scientifically.
God loves you, watches you, judges you and can do anything, but he won’t move a leaf on the floor to tell a crying bullied kid to hold on to hope, that he exists. God is such a human-centric thing anyway. Humans are specks of nothingness, a million years in a tiny planet in a sea of infinite time and space. But yeah some dude created us specifically and we look like him!
I just realized I’m on the God account. 🙏😐 (God wants people to doubt him so he can send them to hell without feeling bad about it?!?!)
No, the concept never really made any sense to me. The idea of god doesn’t actually answer any questions about the world, and I find it fundamentally offensive. The idea that our world is created by some higher power that just fucks with humanity for its own amusement and that gets to judge us effectively denigrates humans to sims in some sick and perverted game.
The idea of god introduces lots of questions as well, such as where does god itself come from. Given that we can explain the whole universe through natural phenomena, seems weird to introduce something there’s no evidence for that needs whole lot of explaining itself.
The explanation for tendency towards religion due to a quirk of natural selection makes the most sense to me. Basically, the theory is that there is selection pressure to err on the side of seeing agency where there is none. If the grass rustles then maybe there’s a tiger hiding there or maybe it’s just the wind. If you think it’s a tiger and run away then you survive, but if you think it’s the wind and it is a tiger than you die. Thus the trait of erring on the side of agency was selected for over many generations, and hence why people tend to look for agency behind our world and the universe itself.
Furthermore, the notion is laughably anthropocentric. we now know there’s a vast universe out there with countless billions of galaxies each having countless billions of stars. We are like a dust mote in vast ocean, and to think that we are somehow special and that there is some deity that cares about what we do individually seems absurd.
Religion made sense when humans didn’t understand how natural phenomena occur, and it provided useful traditions that helped groups of humans survive. The rule against eating pork in Islam is a great example of this. People noticed that those who eat pork are more likely to get sick. They had no idea what bacteria and parasites were, but they saw a pattern and attributed it to some higher power not wanting people to eat pork. This improved people’s chances of staying healthy. The mindset of memorizing a bunch of rules and following them blindly helped keep society going.
Today, we understand how natural phenomena work, and more importantly we have a tool for expanding this knowledge in an effective way that lets us discover and understand phenomena that we currently don’t have good understanding of. This tool is science and it works reliably and repeatably. The mindset of following blind rules that religion promotes has long stopped being beneficial to society and has now become a hindrance.
Nope and those that do are inherently harmful
