• MsPenguinette@lemmy.world
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    I mean, when you are director, it’s only fair that your head is on the line if there is a major fuck up. I’m sure she made plenty of money and will turn around some cush job.

    We were a cow farting a county over from the entire future of US history changing forever. Doesn’t suprise me that politicians who rely on the secret service lost faith in her ability to keep them safe

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      The committee absolutely demolished her during a hearing. Mostly because she kept trying to throw her weight around and wouldn’t answer questions with straight answers. She also claimed, as the damn Director, to not have access to certain bits of knowledge the committee was able to obtain with minimal effort, from reports made by the Secret Service.

      So yeah. Take what you will from that.

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        She’s covering for the people on the ground who fucked up. She’s not throwing people under the bus. Sign of good leadership.

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          Usually, yes. However, this is the Secret Service. Make no mistake, I very much dislike Trump greatly. They were assigned a very important task and failed tremendously, if this wasn’t some on-purpose 4D chess bullshit. They exist for two major reasons and on one of them at the best showed incredible incompetence that day. This should be taken serious.

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      On a long enough time scale, every cow farts changes US history forever. With each flatulence, thousands of empires fall.

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      Right. Like that clown running Crowdstrike, who failed up after a stint at McAfee. There have been two global IT catastrophes on his watch (one at each of those companies), and somehow he keeps getting put in better positions to start the next one.

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        That idiot needs to never be allowed to work in an industry that uses computers ever again.

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    Oh man, and it was right after she said she definitely wouldn’t. There’s a lot of that going around.

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    Her interview with congress was painful to watch. It is a mystery how she even got the job based on her answers

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      Yeah, which is kind of surprising if you look at her Wikipedia, she had plenty of experience within the secret service. I guess this is just a case of being promoted beyond your competence level, as I assume there’s a huge difference between doing the work as a secret service agent and being able to properly deal with the politics of Congress.

      And I guess she’s ultimately responsible for whatever oversight caused them to allow someone with a rifle to get onto a roof 100m from a presidential candidate, whether that’s due to hiring, procedural issues or just general lack of oversight.

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        To me, the local PD seems to have plenty of fault. (Surprised she didn’t throw them under the bus.) The shooter’s on top of a building, outside of SS perimeter. And incredibly, it’s literally full of local PD, apparently emergency response (SWAT).

        There seems to have been severe communication issues from all involved: Knew of suspect for hour, lost him, searched, finally checked roof, too late. SS sniper seems to have had him in sights, but did not shoot until after (perhaps thought he could be local PD). They all deserve blame for the almost comedy of errors. I think the wind might’ve done more to prevent the assassination.

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          Yeah but the buck doesn’t stop at the local PD, if the local PD aren’t handling their end of things properly it’s the secret services job to notice that, and either correct it themselves or not let the person they’re protecting go out in an improperly secured area.

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            Agreed. Just saying they definitely deserve some blame. (And the BS their local DA has been saying is annoying at best.) The simplest thing should have been to delay or postpone the event. But I imagine they almost always have “people of interest” at events, and (somehow) never did see a gun or weapon.

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    If this were Tesla she’d not only not resign but be given a huge pay increase.

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    I asked this earlier, but do we have any idea if this was gross incompetence, gross cowardice, or they wanted it to happen? How do you note that the gunman is on the roof for 20 minutes, have another officer from local PD back down when he has a gun pointed at him and still they do nothing

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      Normal people usually hesitate to kill. Is only a tiny mentally and morally abhorrent minority that would have resorted to violence fast enough to stop this. And we already have way too many of these monstrous hair trigger psychopaths running around already. A couple dead presidents is a small price to pay not to incentivize such psychotic behaviour.

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      Personally, I think he’d become an even worse martyr than he could be as president. If he is murdered then some actually intelligent malicious actors get to use his platform to enact their will, rather than having to work through Trump.

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        I think ideologically sure, but there isn’t anyone right now with the charisma to get power and attention to coalesce around him so the movement would be deranged to a degree.