• dumbass@leminal.space
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    6 days ago

    Maybe we don’t want live action versions of all your good movies?

    Maybe we want new stories to enjoy?

    Maybe, just maybe, you made a bad movie?

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      We just want some original good animation. Why do that so hard, make something new please. Everything these days is a remake or poor quality slop. I’m seeing higher quality output from indie animation

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    The controversy: It’s a terrible movie wrapped up in an intentionally controversial blanket so there’s an easy excuse when it flops.

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    Why is Hollywood hell bent on not creating original IP ever again? It seems like every movie is either a sequel, a reboot, a reimagining, etc. Does anyone just sit down and say “Hey, let’s create a brand new story with new characters and new ideas!”

    Could it be that we are tired of seeing the same old stories with some “controversial” changes and then months of press complaining about people wanting to see or not wanting to see it?

    It couldn’t be my imagination that in the 90s there were way less sequels/reboots.

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      It isn’t yourimagination.

      What it really comes down to is risk. In the 90s, studios relied on the dvd release as a second boost to revenue so if a film didn’t do well in theaters it had a back up.

      With physical media all but gone the studios can only rely on theater revenue which has to be split with the theater itself.

      Because of this, execs are sticking with successful old faithfuls rather than risking money on unprodictable new IP.

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      I think a bunch of ip copyright will be public domain soon, so they are squeezing the last bit of money out. All the original artists are probably dead, so they don’t have to pay royalties. I dunno

      I read that’s why we have so many super hero movies. I’m guessing all this stuff got copyright protection in the fifties.

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    This movie was a perfect storm of stupidity, narcissism, incompetence, and Hollywood. Maybe now we can have normal movies again written with nuanced women like Ripley, Sarah Connor, Beatrix Kiddo, and Trinity, instead of this atrocious Mary Sue slop.

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    None of this would be a problem if Disney had made a good movie.

    But Disney didn’t.

    Zegler is a talented young actress and singer, has had notable roles already, and will continue to have a great career.

    Gal Godot has been a great Wonder Woman.

    Both are good, regardless of what they post on social media.

    The script, production and whole concept of this movie had far worse problems than Zegler and Godot.

    Creepy dwarfs? Cheap looking plastic jewels? Boring script? Bad dance numbers? Bad music?

    Were Zegler and Godot responsible for all of those?

    Releasing the movie to influencers would NOT have helped the word-of-mouth. You have to make a good movie to begin with for that to work.

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      Zegler is a talented young actress and singer,

      You don’t find anything unusual about her acting? Every time I see her it feels like she’s acting, no matter what it is. Movies, interviews, social media, any glimpse is uncanny. Obviously she is “acting” in all those, at least a little, but I get the impression it wouldn’t change even in person. Real skin walker vibes. She creeps me out.

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        There’s a school of acting where you’re supposed to more-or-less keep a blank face, and let the audience project emotions onto your protagonist. Richard Gere was famous for it. I want to say it’s Method Acting, but that’s not it.

        It doesn’t work if the writing doesn’t work.

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      They had the chance to adapt the original movie they were too scared to the first time. Make it r-rated or something. i don’t understand who’s the movie is for.

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        Upon reflection, one of the concept mistakes was slavishly following the original plot.

        The embellishments like the happy citizens, Evil Queen’s love for cheap plastic jewels, apple pies, etc. just felt unnecessary and tacked on.

        Disney already made Maleficent relatively recently in 2014 as a meta take on the original, so where could they go from there?

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    Apparently Gal Godot gives her worst performance yet as the Evil Stepmother.

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          I think in this case, Godot was miscast.

          I understand any actress wanting to expand their range, particularly her wanting to be known anything else other than Wonder Woman. See Leonard Nimoy and his “I’m not Spock” phase.

          Sometimes, you just gotta own it tho…

          A friend who watched Snow White with me thought she was okay, but I didn’t think she sold being EVIL enough.

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    It was a shitty movie, that’s what went wrong.

    And however obnoxious the racism on Twitter was about it, you can’t blame that for the thing losing a hundred mil.

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    With all the “news stories” on the “controversy” surrounding this movie, I figured it was all manufactured drama to get people talking about it enough to watch it. If that’s true it’s a damn shame this is where we are in pop culture that even genocide is being used as a box office draw.

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    Even a straight up copy/paste of the original animated film to live action would have been better.