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Some rare good news.
I’ve maintained that as a serving member, regarding your gender identity, I don’t care, the enemy doesn’t care and the incoming fire sure as shit don’t care.
The memo says the Defense Department is returning to the Biden-era medical policy for transgender service members due to a court order that struck down Hegseth’s restrictions as unconstitutional. The administration is appealing the move, but a federal appeals court in California denied the department’s effort to halt the policy while its challenge is pending.
So the court ordered them too.
The article is making it out like the DoD is “defying” Hegseth, but that seems like a misrepresentaion, as it seems he has to go along with this.
I guess it’s a “win” because the DoD isn’t openly defying an order…
Yet
It’ll get overturned. Give it time. And then maybe that’ll get overturned again. We’ll see, but this isn’t decided.
The Defense Department is complying with a court order that found the restrictions on trans service members unconstitutional. Federal judges have blocked the ban in two separate lawsuits, and one appeals court has denied the department’s request to lift the block while legal challenges proceed.
So balance of powers does exist, if we maintain it.
I wouldn’t hold my breath on that. They initially said they were compiling with getting Garcia back only to but when courts said to show they were working towards it. Them the story changed.
I’ll be believe they are complying with the old policy in a month if no one says they aren’t able to get care.
Hate that the only way to trans Americans to have any right is only if they commit war crimes
Leave the shithole country
Why not encourage people to stay and fight?
Meh thats an option, it been a long slow decline and it seems to be in the final stages now. If there was no fight then there will hardly be now.
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Fuck you dude
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the headline makes it sound like they chose to do this but in reality it was because the courts made them because the original decision was unconstitutional. :)
Just because courts ordered it…
I have heard that a part of it may have been unit cohesion within the military. People go through hell together in training. If, at any point along that line, they were able to remark “Oh, you’re trans? Whatever, man. You’re the one who’s got my back when I’m getting the mounted MG into position.” then federal discrimination may have actually ruffled some real army feathers.
They chose to listen to the courts instead of the executive. That’s sadly pretty huge
I am so glad to see somebody upholding their oath to support and defend the constitution.
I wish the President would do the same, the slob
I’m pleasantly surprised it wasn’t just ignored. Not like anyone would have enforced it.
Deep down I knew there was no chance it wasn’t forced. They’re actively ignoring other court orders so I guess even these evil fucks sometimes realize to pick their battles.
They’re fully aware most of their policies are going to get shot down in court, that’s why they’re carpet bombing the US with bullshit right now.
If we all breath a sigh of relief that some new policy to force toddlers to work in slaughterhouses got shot down, we’re likely missing the 30 odd, convoluted deregulation policies that slip right past the new cycle because they’re written in legalese and seem abstract to 99% of non-wealthy Americans.
I don’t know how many times I can scream that they’re robbing us blind while distracting us with stupid cultural nonsense.
Oh I know. Climate change is getting accelerated as fuck right now. And so many other things you cannot even know what to be most concerned about
Things could be so much better, but on a few occasions I have been pleased to see that even Trump can’t stop environmental progress. Coal will never be big again, and renewables are still the best way to fix rising utility prices; in large part because of what Democratic presidents have built over decades. Pro-environment groups are still doing their damnedest even in a hostile administration.
What you wrote here is encouraging. Though I was thinking specifically about trump opening national forests for logging which is just disgusting.
I don’t care how desperate someone is for a job, anybody who even approaches a national forest or park with a chainsaw…
Yeah, it’s insane. The belief is still around that if you care about the environment at all that makes you some kind of leftist political revolutionary/hippie. But to me it just means you have an iota of foresight.
Cutting down forests without looking strongly toward the consequences of that is just fucking stupid and pathetic. The US has practically zero old growth forests. Changing the makeup of the forest has fucked, and will fuck, with the ecosystem, which we are not apart from. It affects us eventually. In ways we cannot predict. It’s a moronic move and it will harm future generations of humans, if not the current ones.
Actually, if the economy crashes (like under the pandemic) that will slow climate change quicker than our proposed mitigation plans.
100% they’re literally diarrhoea-shitting policies up the wall and seeing which fecal stains the courts and the economy miss or don’t care about.
sigh of relief
This is a success. We need to do more now. No relief, just motivation.
I’m still glad to see that the military, at least, is still respecting court orders.
Cue malicious compliance in 3…2…1…
Why did this happen? Where did a random W come from? Everything is falling apart and no one is doing anything about it and we just get a W out of nowhere from nothing? How do we do it again
Court
That, and Hegseth seems to be spending all his time being paranoid about leaks when he’s the biggest leaker. Between that and day drinking, he doesn’t have much time in his schedule to actually advance fascism.
He’s concerned over leaks about his leaks. Literally.
Didn’t think I’d end up saying this but thank god he made that moron.
no one is doing anything about it
A lot of people are doing a lot about it. Might be time to step away from the Internet if you really believe that. The reality is dark enough you don’t need to make it out to be even worse
I’m going to be optimistic for now that this is a sign that the military is concerned with honoring their oaths to uphold our Constitution by following due process etc, after 100 days of profoundly disturbing attempts by the Executive branch to dishonor the highest of laws in our land.
I’m sure they are worried about driving away talent as well.
They know the cost involved in training people… training people who now have the skills to fuck shit up somewhat more than the average citizen.
My very first thought was “wow, the pentagon really ran all of their best programmers away and now they’re scrambling.”
I’ll be honest, even if that is the only real reason for them doing this, I would still consider this good news.
I highly doubt the Russian backed MAGAts want talented soldiers. They prefer “yes” people who will blindly follow orders and weaken the US military.
this is a sign that the military is concerned with honoring their oaths to uphold our Constitution
They want meat for the meat-wall. Let’s not get too optimistic.
No, really, the world’s largest volunteer fighting force, and we also have the distinction of the world’s biggest and most powerful military, so the brass had to do everything and anything to keep the ranks open wide for anyone who wants to go get themselves killed while burning brown kids in far away lands.
The slightly less cynical take is that we absolutely cannot diminish our enlisted forces any more. We have growing threats from Russia, an unstable president who may start a war with Iran for fun, instability between China, Taiwan and Philippines, just to name a couple of hotspots. If we get in a large-scale fight and don’t have every advantage we’re very likely to lose all status in the world.
The administration knows this. They are distracting you all with these culture-war bullshit fights knowing full well that most of them will either get shot down in court or overridden at some point. While we’re all focused on trying to stop the latest bill to force toddlers to work in kitten slaughterhouses, they’re passing 30 new policies that deregulate the financial sector and repeal laws that limit corporate power, which our illiterate population ignores because it’s boring.
I’m confused. So we’re listening to court orders now?
Great news though
The military are practical. This is an issue that was behind them. They’d established their policies and programs. They were baked in. They had moved on. They don’t care for the politician of the hour jerking them around. People think the military are conservatives, but the army is neither a red state or a blue state. It is green.
As someone who’s competed against all manner of genders in roller derby, lemme tell you, trans people are tough as nails and you want them fighting for America. The USA men’s team for the RD World Cup even has a trans-man, and they beat out 50 biological men for that spot.
Some trans people are tough as nails. Some of us are dweebly little Hank Green knock offs. 🤓
Trans men are (or can be) biologically male. The best term to use for ‘non-trans’ men would be cisgender men. ‘Biological’ is the preferred term that bigots use to spread misinformation and insinuate that trans people aren’t real, natural, or equal.
Someone else said it pretty well:
Biological sex is a construct. It is based on the observable traits of:
- Primary sexual characteristics
- Secondary sexual characeristics
- Gonadal Sex
- Chromosomal Sex
A fully medically transitioned trans person usually matches a majority of these, so it is totally reasonable to say trans women are biologically female, and trans men are biologically male. Generally, the binary categorization of sex is scientifically unsound; it should be understood as a spectrum.
Respectfully, I’m not going to get into the linguistic gymnastics here. My meaning is clear.
I think the point that you seem to be missing is that your language is not respectful. Adding the word respectfully doesn’t change that. The other poster was offering constructive advice and the rationale. You’re just being wilfully ignorant at this point.
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“Biological (insert gender here)” serves as a dogwhistle for a lot of organizations that actively push trans bigotry. It gives a fake impression of a scientific take on sex that really hasn’t been embraced by the scientific community for about 50 years at this point.
They aren’t telling you what to think here, they are alerting you to a tool that organized bigotry is using and giving potential tools to subvert it. Once you see “Biological man/woman” for what it actually is (non-scientfic false categorization) it really can’t be unseen.
Also - Can we stop with the calls that people are trying to control what people think? It’s pretty lame. There’s nothing about this interaction that is trying to force you. All that’s happening is you’ve denied that a certain school of thought is valid. You have stated your reasons why you think it’s invalid and now people who have taken upthat school of thought are defending their position. That’s just normal discourse.
Give you a hint. When people tell you “they are trying to control what people think” that’s actually doing more to control people - because it’s asking someone to take it on someone else’s faith that there’s nothing to be listened to rather than engaging with the arguement yourself.
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No worries. I added plenty of context, so everyone knows my meaning and intent.
That’s shitty. Just take the advice.
Thank you for your opinion. I hope you have a nice weekend.
That’s also not a very nice thing to say.
You don’t want to change your stance on your transphobic wording?
You know what’s wild? This is the first time I’ve ever heard of men doing roller derby. I mean, I’m not surprised that men do it, I’m just surprised that I’ve gone my whole life up to this point and never heard of/encountered/or met men that do roller derby. Are all-male teams common in the sport?
USARS and MRDA have mixed-gender rules. Each team can only field two men in a jam, and if they have a guy sitting in the box, that counts.
I don’t know many all-male leagues or teams (apart from Team USA), just because there aren’t that many men in the sport.
How many WWII films depict trans shows put on for the troops by the troops? Especially in the Navy. Is that all fiction?
My understanding is that this was definitely a thing. It’s been over a decade, but I recall reading a bit about it in a book called ‘Conduct Unbecoming’, a history of gay people in the military.
Note that I’ve just read a few books and am not an expert though. I just don’t care about the genitals of the badass putting on the uniform to protect me.
I never wanted to be told what to do, much less when to put my life in danger, so the military wasn’t a great fit for me. However, I’d be 100% astounded if gay and cross dressing soldiers, seamen etc. weren’t a somewhat common thing throughout the ages, about as or more common than trans-gender in society today, which Google currently rates as about 1/200 people.
I’ve read too much history to put my life in the hands of the US military. They’d just order me to bomb civilians and I’d end up in prison for disobeying orders.
Trump for trans rights?
Lol no. The only person Trump is for is Trump. No one else comes close.
I mean to be fair, one of these planes is much less likely to contain nazis.
Those brown kids getting killed by Trans people must be so happy.
One you have a chance in hell at changing their mind on that topic, and the other will tell you to fuck off or perhaps strap you to one of those bombs. But, sure, protest vote away, I guess. “Both sides” and all that.
Stop supporting baby murderers is the correct opinion.
Nailed it.
Just look at Barrack “Black Drone Operator” Obama, and Joe “Sniff Sniff” Biden who is a blatant Zionist who acted chocked and insulted when he was called a Palestinian (I believe by Trump). Both supporting the violent occupation of Palestine, of course.
This is about everyone suffering from gender dysphoria. They say they’re attacking trans people, who make up a small fraction of society, but they’re attacking treatments for a diagnosis anyone could have. This stuff helps a lot of people, more than we might typically think about.
Pleasant as this is, I wonder how they’re going to keep the crybaby-in-chief from demanding they stop again as part of his ‘dei is evil’ crusade.
On one hand cool, on the other hands troops not cool
