For fuck’s sake… imagine finding out your father, the richest man in the world, fought to only have to pay your mother less than $3000 a month in child support!
I think out of all the things I’ve heard about Elon Musk, this might be the thing that disgusts me the most.
He’s a shit dad all around, which is why his kids hate him.
But surprises me the least
Imagine spending $100/day solely on your child. This is a crazy amount of money already, why is everyone upset?
Oh, you must be unaware of who this is. He is (or was, we’ll see after his Xitter debacle) actually one of the richest men on the planet, and despite being able to pay thousands a day solely on his own child without even noticing, he’s going to great lengths to avoid paying more than the absolute bare minimum for his own child.
Hope that clears it up.
In what world is $2700/month “the absolute bare minimum” for a child? What amount seems reasonable to support a small child?
Or, more to the point, why is everyone pretending that’s not an outrageous amount?
Because it’s not an outrageous amount if you are one of the richest people on earth. It’s all relative.
The same world that produced the USDA Expenditures on Children by Families Consumer Expenditure Survey results, in which that amount is similar to other numbers. The US government may or may not have artificially inflated these numbers for intrinsic benefits. Depending on how you slice the numbers or what variables in that child’s life are at play, a child can easily cost more than $2700 a month, but millions of families also raise multiple children simultaneously on less money than that. In the same world where rent prices on 1-2 bedroom places can start upwards from $1500/month, what values do make sense? The answer to that depends on whether we’re talking about Musk or actual people.
The mother still pays and is very capable of providing. 3k is not the bare minimum when it’s, by decree, the maximum allowed by the state.
It’s not because you can spend that you should and want to spend your money (I could spend more than I do, I prefer keeping some for emergencies and special projects and investments.
Texas has a child support limit, but it might not be the only reason he wants to do it the, he might have more chance to keep custody there over California.
People keep downvoting anyone who is not against Elon Musk, no need to be supportive of him, just simply stating that some arguments against him might be wrong is enough to get downvoted to hell.
This is just Reddit all over again.
The issue is not that it’s to limit to less than 3k. It’s to have a limit at to begin with (California doesn’t have any, so it might cost him dozens or hundreds of thousands a month). Plus, maybe he’s got more chances to keep custody (shared) in Texas than California.
so it might cost him dozens or hundreds of thousands a month
Oh no! The man worth hundreds of billions might have to pay far less than 1% of his wealth to his kids! They’re bleeding him dry, I tell you!
He wouldn’t be paying it to his kids though, but their mom.
$3k in child support is more than most get, who said he hasn’t set up a trust fund for the kid when it grows up / isn’t giving it stocks / inheritance?
Because there’s no way he could possibly do both of those things.
And he definitely should be paying lawyers to fight this in court. I’m sure his kids will really love to hear about that one day.
Again, the kid’s gonna have enough support to have a comfortable childhood, much more than the average child probably.
This money is going to the mom, Musk might not want that, and I honestly think that the majority people would feel the same way in his place.
Don’t get me wrong, Musk is a dumbass, but people around here get blinded by emotions and hatred towards him and don’t even try to think about the situation at all.
How would you like it if you heard that your dad, the richest man in the world, fought against paying child support for you because it would only go to your mother anyway?
Do you think that would make you think highly of your dad?
Depends entirely on the circumstances.
Did I have a nice childhood? Did I get to go to all the clubs I wanted to go to? Did I get the education I wanted?
In my opinion, having too much money is harmful for a child, best to keep it in a fund for college / a downpayment.
3k a month is enough.
Sounds like he should have thought about that before having kids.
So, he’s a deadbeat dad and a Nazi. I bet he thinks he’s manly as fuck.
Did you see that picture of him wielding a katana?? He’s the epitome of manliness!
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-022-00318-z
Psychopathic men are more likely to have lots of children, with minimal regard in actually being a parent to those children.
If it quacks like a duck…
TIL that he called his child “X”. What an idiot.
It turns into a mega X child to fight space invaders.
Musk is a scumbag from the get-go.
If he didn’t want to support his kids he never should have had any.
Wearing a condom isn’t that hard to do.
Or else what?
What consequences does he face other than people on the internet calling him mean names?
Morals are for poor people. They’re the only ones who suffer consequences for not having them.
He’s a giant selfish piece of shit with a messiah/god complex who was born on third with Hank Aaron at bat, any sane society would’ve dropped him into the deep wilderness with a bindle a decade ago. I hope he takes up submarining
Ichiro or Ted Williams.
Hank was a home run hitter not an on base hitter.
I know I was trying to imply overkill
Iirc he believes that it’s his duty to procreate and produce as many white people as possible to prevent replacement.
And yet he’s too lazy to give his “awesome Aryan super race” kids half decent names. And even his Dad was a technocrat nazi who despised the peasants. The gene pool behind this fucker should have been laid to waste a long time ago. Absolute parasite.
Its even crazier than that.
With his first wife, their first child died of sides and they actively used IVF. They then had a set of twins and a set of triplets (I’m assuming they were all via IVF, but I’m not sure). One of those children is the estranged trans person who changed their last name.
His two children with Grimes (including the one this article is about) were via surrogate.
He’s not just refusing to wear a condom. He’s a lively spending thousands of dollars, and women are undergoing surgery, in order to have children for him to neglect. It’s bizarre.
I’m convinced that it’s some transhumanist scheme to download his consciousness into one of his brood via the Neuralink bullshit.
Or, and stay with me here, he needs more test subjects.
Twins with Neuralink director of operations and special projects Shivon Zilis in November 2021.
A third child with Grimes, named Techno Mechanicus, according to a book review published by the New York Times on Sept. 9, 2023.
Oh thank you. I was not including the naturally conceived children. But I see now that this article is about Techno Mechanics, whose details are less publicly available.
Although if Grimes has been pregnant in public I’m sure some gossip magazines would have reported on it.
Damn. What is it about Elon that makes him attractive to so many women?
Did we just ignore the fact that he uses a harness on his kid so he won’t run away? (See article picture)
He’s actually known for the opposite: letting his pretty young child run around, exploring, even in the SpaceX factory (always while watching at a distance). He understands that children need not to be over protected.
Then why is the child wearing a leash like a dog?
just to clarify, is this the kid he used a random password generator to name?
Fuck musk.
Fuck musk.
Do you want him to have even more kids? 'Cause that’s how he gets even more kids!
well, there are ways to do so so, without the risk of children. I’m more concerned he might like it.
Nah, most of (all?) his kids seem to be ivf babies. It’s either down to his need to have perfect embryos to choose from a bunch or he hates sex or he’s ruined by porn or some combination of the three.
Honestly, I think that’s part of which he has taken his one kid being trans so badly. He chose their gender for them before they were even implanted. How dare they try to change after he made the decision.
Deranged behavior either way.
Only? I’d live with that amount of income
It wouldn’t even cover the childcare you’d need while you work to keep a roof over all four heads.
Curious how people raise children on way less 🤷
In terrible poverty, yes. You know Musk is a billionaire, right?
Yeah, I just don’t see why his kids should get luxuries while others go without food and water.
Do you imagine he is doing this so that he can afford to lift all kids out of poverty?
No.
Richest man in the world should just fuck off in his SpaceX rocket.
Right into the sun
I don’t want to be reminded of Musk every time I see the sun.
It would be a good memory.
You don’t have to look right at it
Dang.
When your eyes are bigger than your stomach, lol.
After watching his management skills in business, I suspect his being a father isn’t a great thing for his kids.
Completely shocking after the amazing role model his dad was.
Something something sins of the father…
@return2ozma If the shitstain did not buy twitter he literally could have handed each of his children a billion dollars and still be richer than if he had not bought twitter. He does not appear to be very bright.
I’m no Muskcuck, but I am in favor of capping the generational transfer of wealth. Let these big inequalities die with this generation and set up a (more) even playing field for the next. If the rich want enhanced educational outcomes for their kids they have to fund public institutions.
I’m so glad this insane take will die on the internet where it belongs.
Imagine telling a grown adult they can’t give their kids things.
give all the things you want. multiple BILLIONS of dollars? nah man.
imagine telling a grown adult one person shouldn’t horder 30% of the money. IMAGINE!
imagine telling a grown adult one person shouldn’t horder 30% of the money. IMAGINE!
Two things.
1: You can just tax rich people without crazy-ass plans like this
2: this isn’t how money works
Yeah they’re definitely getting billions in cash??
When they own a company where does it go when they die? Does the government just get it?
What makes you think this opinion will die on the Internet?
Because it’s truly insane and will never get any support in real life.
Absolutely no one will vote in favor of the government confiscating all of your property when you die. Tankie shit isn’t popular outside of a handful of message boards.
Capping the amount of wealth anyone can inherit seems sane to me. In fact it seems healthy for the whole economy, so not just sane but prudent. If you let all the wealth be collected by a few the system breaks down and all the money becomes worthless. Preventing that is entirely sane.
I’m against preventing the transfer all all property. That seems like a recipe for corruption but I’d vote for limiting it to a trust of like $50-$100 million maximum plus an occupied home, a vacation home, and some reasonable amount of small property like boats and cars. Honestly that amount seems excessive to me but I think the majority would be in favor of such a law.
If you let all the wealth be collected by a few the system breaks down and all the money becomes worthless.
This is not how wealth works
An economy only works when a majority participates. An ideal economy has everyone participating.
You can do a basic thought experiment to figure this out. Imagine 10 people control $100 trillion. Everyone else controls $0. What do you think you’ll be able to get for $1?
You might then say, “money isn’t wealth.” True. But if 10 people control all the wealth and everyone else has starved to death that’s even worse.
Holy multi Strawman attack batman LOL.
Because it’s truly insane and will never get any support in real life.
It’s got lots of support IRL already. I support it, therefore your assertion of ‘never get support in real life’ is specious and incorrect.
Absolutely no one
bzzzt wrong again, I’d vote for estate tax reform in a heartbeat.
no one will vote in favor of the government confiscating all of your property when you die.
if this is what you think the estate tax is you’re incredibly stupid. yet another misrepresentation of reality to fit into your premise, but it’s so fucking dumb from the outset it doesn’t even warrant a reply. Yet here we are.
Tankie shit isn’t popular outside of a handful of message boards.
Taxing the ultra wealthy isn’t ‘tankie shit’ you fucking dirtbag. Cute attempt to associate ‘people who don’t think a few should horde all the wealth’ with ‘tankies’.
Your entire argument is lies and garbage. Please, just stop whatever weird piece of performance art this utter shitshow is.
It’s got lots of support IRL already. I support it, therefore your assertion of ‘never get support in real life’ is specious and incorrect.
Lol
that’s all you got huh?
weaksauce. no refutation, no thesis just… lol.
god what a waste of time your entire existence must be.
Bro do you even understand why what I quoted is funny?
Estate tax is a tax, not a confiscation. If the tax were two high it would require manu inheritors to sell shares to shares to pay it, which would dump the share price of a company.
It’s child support bro
He didn’t say Musk shouldn’t have to pay child support.
He’s arguing that his children shouldn’t be billionaires out the gate because their daddy screwed over other parents.
They wouldn’t even become billionaires if he had to pay a million a month.
Missing the point of the comment thread?
If musk was a billionaire then died and settled in the money to his kids then how are they not billionaires?
An expensive coffee costs $5. For a person that makes $100,000 that’s 0.005% of annual income.
Musk’s annual cost would be $33,120 for all three kids. I don’t know his annual income and because a lot of his worth is in stocks it’s probably hard to figure out and highly variable. I’ll do some pretty stupid math and say he’s worth 185 billion and he’s 52, so he’s made 3.5 billion a year.
Musk is fighting to pay an annual cost for all three of his three kids of 0.0009% of his annual income, a amount proportionally less than what many spend one day on coffee.
Again, no. Musks networth was somewhere around 160 billion because of stocks in the stupidly overinflated tesla. The tesla bubble is already inflating like hell and with that I’m sure he’s losing networth like hell. If he continues current course he’ll be bankrupt withing a few years.
Either way, the money he has in his bank accounts is NOT the same and probably in the tens of millions tops.
Consider also that the median household income is $74,580 and is actually on the decline from a couple of years ago. The median household income.
I always wondered why Musk keeps taking X around to all the things and never any of his other kids.
I previously attributed it to getting good PR.
I now sees it’s how he’s going to “win” against Grimes.
Doucheladdle
I mean does anyone feel bad for Grimes?
It’s not like it was some big secret he was an egomaniac years ago.
Downvote Musk spam.
The billionaire doesn’t need your help ensuring him and his businesses stay in the 24 hour news cycle. Don’t be a useful idiot.
I normally agree, but this seems like one of those cases where name and shame might actually get some results 🤷♂️
He has been “shamed” by news articles every single day for the past how many years? It’s not working. Downvote his bullshit.
